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Post by scrumpy on Feb 1, 2012 19:33:51 GMT
As you may remember, this bloom appeared amongst my varieties last year and no one from any of the suppliers was able to identify it.  Luckily i managed to save some seed which i started off on the 4th of January this was how they were on the 18th January.   and have now gone into my frame with all the others  They are 3 weeks behind my other sweet peas that have been in the frame since the end of December. They will be grown in 2 two foot diameter containers, 8 to each one, to see what we end up with....hopefully a nice pink colour  |
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Post by Tel on Feb 1, 2012 19:40:31 GMT
I don't know anything about sweetpeas scrumpy, but it looks a lovely one, so fingers crossed your seedlings come true. |
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 1, 2012 19:53:10 GMT
Cheers.
It's a bit hit and miss in this case....from what sweet pea said, and from some of the suppliers, i may get pink ones this year, and if the seeds saved from them stay pink the following year then we are ok.
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Post by Tel on Feb 1, 2012 19:55:02 GMT
Has you know that is the same with dahlias. |
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 1, 2012 22:05:10 GMT
It can take anything up to 7 years to 'Fix' a seedling scrumpy.
Sweetpeas very rarely cross by themselves and usually need a helping hand. The resultant seedlings will be a mixed bag (F2)
The next generation will be F1 from which you need to select for several more years and even the there will be rogues.
Good luck with it.
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Post by scrumpy on Jun 18, 2012 23:13:53 GMT
Well we have actually had one that has flowered. If you remebver, it was supposed to be a mid blue originally. Then it turned to pink. Now here is the first one  as you can see, we have an identical colour and shape Where the hell has that colour come from we ask ourselves. Anyway, I can see 2 more plants about to bloom that look a different colour, so you never know. |
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Post by scrumpy on Jun 28, 2012 22:18:51 GMT
Got a few more plants flowering now. These too are growing through the bud drop, hence some with three flowers per stem. The plants are incredibly vigorous, the stems are averaging 18" in length, with good sized flowers. However, this is our range of colours from the seeds saved  As you can see, we have a lovely maroon, a nice white which has a very faint pink tinge to it until it fully opens, and two pinks that closely resemble last years. So out of 16 plants, I think 5 may end up pink, looks like 2 white, 3 maroon, and the rest are similar colours but the blooms are like the old fashioned varieties, they haven't the classic Spencer shape. So now the fun starts. Looks like next year i'll be saving seeds from 3 different plants of each colour break and growing them on to see what we get. Which means creating a "seedling bed " over the allotment. Sweet pea was right, looks like i'll be embarking on a 7 year project. One god thing about them is that I'll be able to show them at the nationals in the mixed vase class should they be ready on the day, and there will be plenty of people to ask what they think of them. |
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Post by Cherry on Jun 29, 2012 4:32:00 GMT
They are coming on really well and must smell glorious.
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Post by peony on Jun 29, 2012 10:04:16 GMT
They all look lovely to me Scrumpy, but I particularly like the maroon with the blue patches |
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Post by grindle on Jun 29, 2012 15:38:37 GMT
that one is a lovely rich colour |
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Post by scrumpy on Jun 29, 2012 20:31:12 GMT
Yes, the smell is good too.
My camera doesn't do the colours justice. The maroon one looks even better in real life.
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Post by Tel on Jul 1, 2012 5:30:04 GMT
A interesting project you have there scrumpy, for the next 7 years. |
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Post by sweetpea on Jul 6, 2012 23:42:41 GMT
Grow some as bush as well as cordon scrumpy and see how they do.
BTW I found a few seeds in a film cassette container and I think they are leftovers from when I was breeding sweetpeas. Only way to find out is to sow them later in october and see what happens.
Sometimes it seems we never have enough time for these things.
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Post by scrumpy on Jul 7, 2012 9:58:02 GMT
Grow some as bush as well as cordon scrumpy and see how they do. BTW I found a few seeds in a film cassette container and I think they are leftovers from when I was breeding sweetpeas. Only way to find out is to sow them later in october and see what happens. Sometimes it seems we never have enough time for these things. Nice to hear from you again. I have been in contact with Sydney Harrod, who has been in contact with Andy Bean, who seem to both agree that somehow last years seeds must have had some F! hybrids of another source accidentally mixed in.....they have looked at the colours and concur that the parentage of Karen Harrod could not possibly have produced the colour breaks. So I must be following the same route as the breeder of the F1's with these F2's...the race is on |
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Post by scrumpy on Jun 22, 2013 9:32:40 GMT
Seeds I saved from last year are just coming into flower.
So far I have a pure white, a pale cream.....these two are flowering next to each other and you can tell the difference, and one that looks like Sir Jimmy Shand only a more pinky/purple colour. Soon as the rest come into flower I'll post some pictures. Stem length is good, as is the size of the standards.
I've got about 40 seedlings growing. You can tell the seedling plants because they have red markings at the leaf bracts.
I did have more but lost a few, so I know that the ones that have survived will be strong plants.
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