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Post by sweetpea on Jan 28, 2013 14:59:29 GMT
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Post by Geranium on Jan 28, 2013 15:34:49 GMT
Moonlight, google 'Rose pruning' and look for the RHS guide to pruning. Your roses are both floribundas, I believe, so follow the advice - but wait for about a month before you do the deed!  |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 28, 2013 15:55:10 GMT
Moonlight, google 'Rose pruning' and look for the RHS guide to pruning. Your roses are both floribundas, I believe, so follow the advice - but wait for about a month before you do the deed! 
I was thinking about getting 'Rhapsody in Blue' for my 'blue rose' but the Nursery didn't have it so I bought 'Blue Moon' the label says it is a Hybrid Tea Rose and the other is a 'Cardinal De Richelieu' and it says that it is a shrub rose. Not knowing anything about what type I was looking for I went with purely on colour, smell and that if it had won an award it must be a good one. Happy to wait a month, I have a tendancy to be a bit vigorous when I have cut back lavender in the past. |
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Post by sweetpea on Jan 28, 2013 16:12:32 GMT
Moonlight, google 'Rose pruning' and look for the RHS guide to pruning. Your roses are both floribundas, I believe, so follow the advice - but wait for about a month before you do the deed!
I was thinking about getting 'Rhapsody in Blue' for my 'blue rose' but the Nursery didn't have it so I bought 'Blue Moon' the label says it is a Hybrid Tea Rose and the other is a 'Cardinal De Richelieu' and it says that it is a shrub rose. Not knowing anything about what type I was looking for I went with purely on colour, smell and that if it had won an award it must be a good one. Happy to wait a month, I have a tendancy to be a bit vigorous when I have cut back lavender in the past. More commonly called, 'Cluster Flowered' in show schedules. which is all that Floribunda means. |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 28, 2013 20:55:26 GMT
Had an email from Sarah Raven today (not her personally ) my delivery is on its way...
Not the dahlias surely?
No it's my Meadows Annual Mix
well that is the good news it is on its way, bad news don't get to do anything with it until April.  Oh well looking forward to having sow and rake and forget about the stress, just let it get on and do its own thing. Nothing fussy, no doubts is it in the right place, shake'n'rake and that's it for the year. Well that's the plan anyway.
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Post by Geranium on Jan 28, 2013 21:35:49 GMT
The RHS rose pruning advice will help you - 'Cardinal Richelieu' is a gallica shrub rose, and 'Blue Moon' is, as you said, a hybrid tea rose. The advice is all there for you, as they need different pruning.
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Post by steve on Jan 29, 2013 12:40:05 GMT
Check your messages Moonlight |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 0:20:16 GMT
(I started trying to do a post but I think that I am too tired to explain what I mean and I still have not decided whether it should go into General Gardening or Dahlias forum so I am putting it here and give up now and go to bed. Maybe someone here is a Moonlight, mind reader with a magic wand?  ).
I realise that I am probably the only person that gets my sense of humour at this time of night... 
The RHS Plant Finder 2012 - 2013
Plants with year last listed
I found this pdf document via a google search.
www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=clearview%20arlene%20dahlia&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGUQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fapps.rhs.org.uk%2Frhsplantfinder%2Fdocuments%2Flastlisted.pdf&ei=6KsJUdVVjpjRBay4gPAM&usg=AFQjCNGrnuA463x7eTaddtmlXL9uN2-LVQ&bvm=bv.41642243,d.d2k&cad=rja but when I've actually entered varieties from this documents list on the plant finder database, they are not on the database. I want a dahlia off of the list and this is the only time where I have found it listed on anything recent.
When I enter 'Honesty' I get a single named variety that has been given RHS award.
When I enter 'dahlia' I get a very long drop down list with varieties that have been awarded RHS merit award but they don't tally with the list on the pdf download.
for example, page 50 of 213 ‘Eastwood Pinky’ (MS-c) 1990 is listed
but where? why? Maybe it is just too late and I am just missing out on the obvious but where on the main site is another reference to that variety? I don't understand the purpose of the document.
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Post by Geranium on Jan 31, 2013 6:35:37 GMT
I'll try to explain how the 'Plant Finder' is created each year. Maybe that will help.
Growers/Nurseries are approached in the previous year before the new version of the book and updated website are published, i.e. for the 2012/2013 version, they had to send in their stock lists during 2011 by a deadline.
Then the huge task begins to edit the new book/site list. Any entry in that version is normally available for sale, albeit perhaps in small quantities.
The list you've stumbled on is the correlation of all plants no longer available - the date is when they were last in the book/website. That means they won't be available for sale at the Nurseries who do submit lists to the RHS.
You have to remember that many small independent growers don't have entries in the RHS listings, nor do the big Garden Centre chains.
So - what all that means is that if you type in 'Eastwood Pinky' (for example) into the 2012/13 RHS plant finder list on line, or look in the book, it won't be there.
Did all that explain things?
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 8:01:03 GMT
I'll try to explain how the 'Plant Finder' is created each year. Maybe that will help. Growers/Nurseries are approached in the previous year before the new version of the book and updated website are published, i.e. for the 2012/2013 version, they had to send in their stock lists during 2011 by a deadline. Then the huge task begins to edit the new book/site list. Any entry in that version is normally available for sale, albeit perhaps in small quantities. The list you've stumbled on is the correlation of all plants no longer available - the date is when they were last in the book/website. That means they won't be available for sale at the Nurseries who do submit lists to the RHS. You have to remember that many small independent growers don't have entries in the RHS listings, nor do the big Garden Centre chains. So - what all that means is that if you type in 'Eastwood Pinky' (for example) into the 2012/13 RHS plant finder list on line, or look in the book, it won't be there. Did all that explain things? |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 9:30:18 GMT
I should ban myself from looking at dahlia websites:www.rosecottageplants.co.uk/dahlia-blackberry-ripple-pack-of-3-tubers/p491It is not such a delicate pattern as Candy Jayne but that is part of the fun of variegated varieties that whole randomness of bloom to bloom even within the same plant.
So that is the exciting news, good news it is in the UK but the bad news is that I certainly don't need 3 of them and I would not be allowed to have even one more dahlia. For a complete beginner I have more than enough. Probably won't even be worth mentioning it to HH.
Lets wait and see if I can grow the ones that I have already.... Fingers and Toes crossed, fingers and toes.
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 10:24:29 GMT
We were nearly late for school today, Pirate Yellow Wellies discovered that our Sweetpea babies are popping up. I was trying to do Fairy Pink Wellies' hair and Pirate Yellow Wellies was standing at the bottom of the stairs clutching 2 pots of sweet peas. So Fairy Pink Wellies zoomed downstairs to go look at the others (who are sitting in my purple wheelbarrow : and marched back upstairs clutching pots to show me.
So here is our growth progress report:
T&M mix that Fairy Pink Wellies, Pirate Yellow Wellies & Fairy Pink Wellies have a pot of 6 each and both have 2 babies popping up. (Thank goodness for that or their would have been tears)
Dave Thomas (red) 1 + a small mound that you can see the little seedlette poking up
White Frills (white) 3
Linda C (blue) 2 + another split mound with the seedlette poking through
Zillah Harrod (lavender) 1 just about bursting through
Gwendoline (magenta) still fast asleep
Anniversary (picotee) still sound asleep
Hannah Beth (Lavender on white) nothing .
I think PYW is going to want to run home to water hers after school
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Post by sweetpea on Jan 31, 2013 12:28:34 GMT
Some nice varieties there Moonlight |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 31, 2013 13:06:47 GMT
Some nice varieties there Moonlight |
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 1, 2013 9:54:59 GMT
So here is todays sweet pea seedlings growth report:
Fairy Pink Wellies pot of T&M seeds all through.
Pirate Yellow Wellies pot of T&M seeds
Hannah Beth (Lavender on white) has
Dave Thomas (red)
White Frills (white) all through.
Linda C (blue)
Zillah Harrod (lavender) now with 1 just about bursting through
Gwendoline (magenta) has woken up with
Anniversary (picotee) has woken up with
Obviously Hannah Beth likes a lie in as she is taking the longest to get ready!
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Oh well looking forward to having sow and rake and forget about the stress, just let it get on and do its own thing. Nothing fussy, no doubts is it in the right place, shake'n'rake and that's it for the year. Well that's the plan anyway. 
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and marched back upstairs clutching pots to show me.
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