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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 17:34:39 GMT
I took my first 20 cuttings on Monday morning and then, the clouds disappeared and the sun shone all day on the greenhouse. Even with the vents and doors opened it was soon in the 80's, with the cuttings drooping in the heat, so I put a spare bit of shading over the propagator after a bit of misting. Although a couple are still looking a bit sad for themselves the others are looking fine  |
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Post by Tel on Mar 13, 2014 9:36:36 GMT
I took my first 20 cuttings on Monday morning and then, the clouds disappeared and the sun shone all day on the greenhouse. Even with the vents and doors opened it was soon in the 80's, with the cuttings drooping in the heat, so I put a spare bit of shading over the propagator after a bit of misting. Although a couple are still looking a bit sad for themselves the others are looking fine Just take more cuttings than you really need, then if you lose a few it does not matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 13:25:53 GMT
I'm going cutting crazy  . I've been taking cuttings and placing them in my Vitapod at 20'C, and keeping them shaded when the suns shining. I'm misting twice a day, early morning and evening, does that sound ok Tel. Nearly all of my tubers are now showing signs of life, with two more today 56 days after benching them. Just shows, you have to be patient  . Which I've learnt from this forum. Thanks everybody. |
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Post by Tel on Mar 13, 2014 14:40:19 GMT
I'm going cutting crazy . I've been taking cuttings and placing them in my Vitapod at 20'C, and keeping them shaded when the suns shining. I'm misting twice a day, early morning and evening, does that sound ok Tel. Nearly all of my tubers are now showing signs of life, with two more today 56 days after benching them. Just shows, you have to be patient . Which I've learnt from this forum. Thanks everybody. I mist mine twice a day, that's if I remember. I use a small sprayer on a fine spray, seems to work ok for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 16:47:12 GMT
I'm going cutting crazy . I've been taking cuttings and placing them in my Vitapod at 20'C, and keeping them shaded when the suns shining. I'm misting twice a day, early morning and evening, does that sound ok Tel. Nearly all of my tubers are now showing signs of life, with two more today 56 days after benching them. Just shows, you have to be patient . Which I've learnt from this forum. Thanks everybody. Be careful with your temperature !! I have my bench heat at 18 degrees for cuttings, when you start getting near 20 damping off becomes a problem. Be sure to have a seperate glass thermometer inserted in the cutting tray, this will give you a far more accurate reading than any electronic thermostat. If your cuttings are covered they dont need bottom heat. My rule is bottom heat no covers or no heat with covers. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 10:52:26 GMT
Seems I might have made a mistake of using last years rooting gel, as most of my cuttings are dying. Have tried your method of bases heat and no lid, and no heat with lid. Unfortunately I think the rooting gel maybe off. Doesn't have any dates on the bottle, so have ordered a fresh one and will start again  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 12:05:25 GMT
Seems I might have made a mistake of using last years rooting gel, as most of my cuttings are dying. Have tried your method of bases heat and no lid, and no heat with lid. Unfortunately I think the rooting gel maybe off. Doesn't have any dates on the bottle, so have ordered a fresh one and will start again Are you sure its the rooting gel ? I use clonex which although is apparently only to be used within 12 months I make a bottle last 2 seasons with no problems. Some growers dont use any and still obtain good rooted cuttings with their own method. I'm enclined to think that you might need to look at your heat and watering methods as for them to hit the dust after only 10 days from being struck does not sound like rooting compound problems. If it was a rooting problem the cuttings would just sit there and not grow, but to the naked eye they would look semi OK. From your previous posts, 20 degree bottom heat and covers only has one result. Once the damage is done early doors to a cutting its very hard to reverse. What temp is the compost mix at root level, ignore what your thermostat says ? My cuttings that I am taking now will have no bottom heat and no covers. They will be misted twice a day and I pretty confident they will root. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 14:30:33 GMT
I've ordered a bottle of clonex, to replace the one I used last year, which was organic rooting gel by Growing success, and it's gone a little murky so really should've known better. The soil is 18'C and a little on the damp side. Since your last post, I've taken them out of the propagator. When I pull out the dead cuttings the bases have turned black and limp, so maybe to much humidity whilst in the vitapod. Will start again from scratch on Tuesday with new gel, fresh soil and no heating and no lid. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2014 16:01:10 GMT
I've ordered a bottle of clonex, to replace the one I used last year, which was organic rooting gel by Growing success, and it's gone a little murky so really should've known better. The soil is 18'C and a little on the damp side. Since your last post, I've taken them out of the propagator. When I pull out the dead cuttings the bases have turned black and limp, so maybe to much humidity whilst in the vitapod. Will start again from scratch on Tuesday with new gel, fresh soil and no heating and no lid. Definitly 'DAMPING OFF'. Old rooting gel or powder does not do this. Sounds like too much heat or humidity or both. Gentle heat is what is needed, 16-18 degrees max. I propagate my tubers in the greenhouse, but my cuttings are reared in the conservatory which is cooler. Then when they are rooted they are potted on and transfered back to the greenhouse. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 9:16:59 GMT
I've ordered a bottle of clonex, to replace the one I used last year, which was organic rooting gel by Growing success, and it's gone a little murky so really should've known better. The soil is 18'C and a little on the damp side. Since your last post, I've taken them out of the propagator. When I pull out the dead cuttings the bases have turned black and limp, so maybe to much humidity whilst in the vitapod. Will start again from scratch on Tuesday with new gel, fresh soil and no heating and no lid. Definitly 'DAMPING OFF'. Old rooting gel or powder does not do this. Sounds like too much heat or humidity or both. Gentle heat is what is needed, 16-18 degrees max. I propagate my tubers in the greenhouse, but my cuttings are reared in the conservatory which is cooler. Then when they are rooted they are potted on and transfered back to the greenhouse. Thanks for all the great advice, unfortunately I haven't got a conservatory so I think the bottom shelf of the staging will have to do, though it's a bit shadier there. Hopefully they will like a bit of shade  |
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Post by snute2008 on Mar 17, 2014 9:22:35 GMT
Does anyone have any Barbarry Parade cuttings for sale? or s spare tuber please.
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Post by scrumpy on Mar 17, 2014 10:21:55 GMT
I think with cuttings you have to find whats best for you. It is trial and error. It's getting the rooting medium right, not having it too wet, and again temperature. Mine is set to 60'f, but because it is on a thermostat it only comes on as a rule overnight. The peat keeps the temperature uniform. My lid is permanently on. The peat surrounding the pots in the tray keeps the cuttings moist at all times.
I've been away for 3 days and the greenhouse got to 90'f, yet the cuttings survived nicely with no help at all, no extra shading or misting.
The other thing that can cause cuttings to damp off is actually the cutting itself. Experience tells you that some cuttings you know are going to struggle, and invariably they do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 11:20:01 GMT
Does anyone have any Barbarry Parade cuttings for sale? or s spare tuber please. I have some Barbarry Salsa which is better than Parade and Barbarry Surprise which in my opinion is one of the best Barbarry miniatures that Barry davies has produced over the last few years. PM me if interested ? |
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Post by Tel on Mar 17, 2014 15:13:39 GMT
Does anyone have any Barbarry Parade cuttings for sale? or s spare tuber please. That is one variety I am getting this season ordered 6 plants. After what Woodford say's, I wish I had not bothered now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 10:21:30 GMT
Just received my mini plant order from Halls. First time ordering from them and the plants are in really good health, going straight to the greenhouse to pot up. I got, Minley Carol, Hapet Vinette, Madam de Rosa, Art Deco, Tudor 1, Spartacus and White Alvas which I had 2 years ago, but lost over wintering.
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. I've been taking cuttings and placing them in my Vitapod at 20'C, and keeping them shaded when the suns shining. I'm misting twice a day, early morning and evening, does that sound ok Tel. Nearly all of my tubers are now showing signs of life, with two more today 56 days after benching them. Just shows, you have to be patient 
. Which I've learnt from this forum. Thanks everybody.
