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Post by Cherry on May 7, 2015 7:53:35 GMT
From the age of 11 yrs until working in Melbourne, I drove the tractor for my grandpop while he managed the towed spray pump. It was DDT at that time. I had to earn my holidays with my grandparents. I must be full of it, but I remember two orchardists in our area who died of 'spray poisoning'. We have come a long way, with selective weedkillers, etc.
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Post by scrumpy on May 7, 2015 8:43:54 GMT
Is Systhane still going then Tel? I believe Dithane has been taken off. Its not the Systhane 20EW I use the Bayer Systhane fungus fighter. daitheplantsysthane has been withdrawn and replaced with fungus fighter concentrate |
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Post by scrumpy on May 7, 2015 8:47:20 GMT
From the age of 11 yrs until working in Melbourne, I drove the tractor for my grandpop while he managed the towed spray pump. It was DDT at that time. I had to earn my holidays with my grandparents. I must be full of it, but I remember two orchardists in our area who died of 'spray poisoning'. We have come a long way, with selective weedkillers, etc. On a wide scale, if people don't use protective clothing then they are in for some trouble no matter what you spray. There will always be people having a reaction to any product. In fact, certain plants on their own can be just as toxic and more of a killer than any insecticide, fungicide, weedkiler. |
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Post by Tel on May 7, 2015 11:47:31 GMT
Its not the Systhane 20EW I use the Bayer Systhane fungus fighter. daitheplantsysthane has been withdrawn and replaced with fungus fighter concentrate Did not know that scrumpy, there was no dahlia smut,  on the new allotment, last year. I still have a full one and some left in another, may need it may not. but I will not get rid of it. Big brother can always send a drone over, to see if I am using any. |
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Post by daitheplant on May 7, 2015 20:08:23 GMT
From the age of 11 yrs until working in Melbourne, I drove the tractor for my grandpop while he managed the towed spray pump. It was DDT at that time. I had to earn my holidays with my grandparents. I must be full of it, but I remember two orchardists in our area who died of 'spray poisoning'. We have come a long way, with selective weedkillers, etc. On a wide scale, if people don't use protective clothing then they are in for some trouble no matter what you spray. There will always be people having a reaction to any product. In fact, certain plants on their own can be just as toxic and more of a killer than any insecticide, fungicide, weedkiler. People need to be more aware of COSHH laws. |
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Post by Tel on May 20, 2015 7:00:04 GMT
Netherlands banning Glyphosate.
The evidence damning glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, the world’s number one herbicide for weed control, has become too enormous to ignore.
While it won’t kill you immediately as demonstrated by foolish Monsanto reps who have been known to drink Roundup in product demonstrations to convince unwitting farmers to use it, the long term effects to health are nothing short of devastating.
Infertility
Kidney disease
Birth defects
Severe gastrointestinal ailments
Parkinson’s Disease
Cancer
Nervous system damage
And the list goes on.
Finally, governments around the world are starting to take action, with the Dutch Parliament in recent days voting to ban all glyphosate-based herbicides including Roundup, from the end of 2015 and beyond.
Esther Ouwehand, Dutch Parliament member who introduced the successful motion to ban the deadly herbicide for private use, had this to say:
Agricultural pesticides in user-friendly packaging are sold in abundance to private persons. In garden centres RoundUp is promoted as harmless, but unsuspecting customers have no idea what the risks of this product are. Especially children are sensitive to toxic substances and should therefore not be exposed to it.
France Poised to Ban Roundup and Follow Netherlands’ Lead
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Post by scrumpy on May 20, 2015 7:17:53 GMT
Side effects from paracetamol are rare.
However, side effects can include:
a rash or swelling – this could be a sign of an allergic reaction
hypotension (low blood pressure) when given in hospital by infusion (a continuous drip of medicine into a vein in your arm)
liver and kidney damage, when taken at higher-than-recommended doses (overdose)
In extreme cases the liver damage that can result from a paracetamol overdose can be fatal.
Side effects of aspirin
Aspirin can cause side effects, although serious reactions are rare.
See your doctor if you are worried or continue to experience any side effects while taking low-dose aspirin.
Common side effects may include:
indigestion
increased risk of bleeding
However, less than 10% of people taking aspirin experience these side effects. If you experience indigestion, try sticking to basic food and taking your aspirin after a meal.
Allergic reaction
In some cases aspirin can cause an allergic reaction, although this is more common in people who have asthma. Go to the nearest hospital's accident and emergency department (A&E) if you experience:
swelling of the lips, mouth or throat
breathing problems
a skin rash which appears quickly
Uncommon or rare side effects
Other, rarer side effects of aspirin may include:
a runny nose
headache
ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
vertigo
a raised, itchy rash on the skin (hives)
nausea or vomiting
worsening of asthma caused by narrowing of airways
inflammation (swelling) of the stomach
bleeding in the stomach
bruising
In extremely rare cases, a possible side effect of taking low-dose aspirin is haemorrhagic stroke (bleeding in the brain).
As you can see, when taken correctly, our favourite aspirin and paracetamol can cause problems. Hospitals spend a fortune on overdose of the above.
So, why ban glyphosate. Are they seriously telling us that spraying a weed will cause all the side effects listed. Or do we have to drink it like tea.
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Post by ste b on May 20, 2015 9:01:57 GMT
I suppose I should stop taking my aspirin now in case I get a reaction if if if ! EU gone mad again wheres are referendum , on a safety issue on our allotment we had to cover all water butts just in case someone got on your shed and fell off into the butt and drowns , committee people gone mad , soon we will all need to wear safety shoes high vis vest and hard hat to dig our plots over .ps just had that water butt rule stopped after 5 years.
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Post by ian on May 20, 2015 11:47:29 GMT
He he, Hi Steve do you not wear safety shoes high vis vest and hard hat to dig your plot?
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Post by ste b on May 20, 2015 12:35:43 GMT
He he, Hi Steve do you not wear safety shoes high vis vest and hard hat to dig your plot? Yes I do in case an acorn falls off a tree and hits me on the head "silly" |
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Post by Tel on Jun 14, 2015 14:06:33 GMT
Netherlands banning Glyphosate. The evidence damning glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup, the world’s number one herbicide for weed control, has become too enormous to ignore. While it won’t kill you immediately as demonstrated by foolish Monsanto reps who have been known to drink Roundup in product demonstrations to convince unwitting farmers to use it, the long term effects to health are nothing short of devastating. Infertility Kidney disease Birth defects Severe gastrointestinal ailments Parkinson’s Disease Cancer Nervous system damage And the list goes on. Finally, governments around the world are starting to take action, with the Dutch Parliament in recent days voting to ban all glyphosate-based herbicides including Roundup, from the end of 2015 and beyond. Esther Ouwehand, Dutch Parliament member who introduced the successful motion to ban the deadly herbicide for private use, had this to say: Agricultural pesticides in user-friendly packaging are sold in abundance to private persons. In garden centres RoundUp is promoted as harmless, but unsuspecting customers have no idea what the risks of this product are. Especially children are sensitive to toxic substances and should therefore not be exposed to it. France Poised to Ban Roundup and Follow Netherlands’ Lead Time to stock up on Roundup, before it is banned here.  |
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Post by grumpy on Jun 15, 2015 20:27:55 GMT
Scrumpy, You did not mention exactly what problems you had last year. If you had a fungus attack on your leafs the best way to deal with it is to use lemon or lime. Wipe the infected are with lemon or lime and leave over night . The acid in the lime or lemon will break down the bacteria. Then use fungus fighter. If you use TCP dilute it with water and spray the infected area, leave for 24 hours and then use fungus fighter. Old methods never fail. Good luck! Grumpy
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Post by ian on Jun 16, 2015 7:06:27 GMT
Scrumpy will want the lemon & lime for his Gin & tonic hehe. Good luck Grumpy
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Post by Moonlight on Jun 18, 2015 22:54:51 GMT
Could anyone recommend or warn against a sprayer? My pour seedlings are being attacked and I want to fight back effectively. Looked at the ones in the argos have really bad reviews.
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Post by ian on Jun 19, 2015 0:23:23 GMT
Hi Moonlight I have a hose lock 8lt sprayer it is very very good does what it says on the tin. There are sprayers at Aldi 5lt at a good price again they are ok my mate has one
Hope you are feeling better Moonie.
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on the new allotment, last year. I still have a full one and some left in another, may need it may not. but I will not get rid of it. Big brother can always send a drone over, to see if I am using any. 
