Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:19:33 GMT

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:19:33 GMT

- 10/09/2010 : 12:51:25
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Copied and pasted from the old forum, some of it will not make any sense, because copying and pasting does not move the pics with it.

Called down to the allotment this morning, to have a look and see how many blooms had marked with the damp overnight, fortunately not many.
There is rain forecast again overnight, so its fingers crossed they is a few to cut tomorrow, for the Harden Beck Show on Sunday.
I may have a vase of Debs Kiwi one of the varieties that Lou sent me to look after.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

esther
Tree

6010 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 15:46:43
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Hello Tel - Here is the schedule for our local show

esther
Tree

6010 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 15:48:17
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Here is the other part

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 16:31:00
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There's plenty there to "get your teeth into" Esther. Your schedules are similar to the show I exhibit at....I'm sure a few of us could start you off with some cuttings in the Spring

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 16:40:35
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This is supposed to be a plant of "Deborah's Kiwi"...all the rest are as normal. I have this in one of the mixed beds at the lottie..I think it was a spare tuber from last year. The plant itself seems to be a bit "stunted"....as are the flower stems. Any ideas Tel..? Apart from the fact that the earwigs have been having a party...lol

also....

Any idea what this one is...its not one that I ordered..

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 19:31:44
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The first pic looks like a waterlily, but if i were you, i would destroy it, stunted growth sounds like a virus.

The second pic, it could be one of many, could you look on the sites you bought any dahlias from and see if they have a pic of it.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 19:37:19
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Originally posted by esther

Hello Tel - Here is the schedule for our local show

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Esther, have a look on page 5 on the last dahlia topic, you will find all the top show dahlias listed.
I am just too lazy to write them all out again.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

esther
Tree

6010 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 19:56:17
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OK will do

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 20:08:56
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Harden Beck has 9 classes for dahlias, 2 of those are for medium varieties, i have not grown any for shows this year. With luck i may have an entry in the other 7 classes including the 3 vase Harden Beck Challenge, i am trying to defend that trophy, plus silver medal this year for the 3rd time.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 20:43:19
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Originally posted by tel7772

The first pic looks like a waterlily, but if i were you, i would destroy it, stunted growth sounds like a virus.

The second pic, it could be one of many, could you look on the sites you bought any dahlias from and see if they have a pic of it.

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I suspected a virus...it goes in the bin tomorrow

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 20:56:52
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Originally posted by Loublou

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Originally posted by tel7772

The first pic looks like a waterlily, but if i were you, i would destroy it, stunted growth sounds like a virus.

The second pic, it could be one of many, could you look on the sites you bought any dahlias from and see if they have a pic of it.

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I suspected a virus...it goes in the bin tomorrow

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Sorry Lou, but as you know virus is soon spread.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 21:25:40
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Thats ok Tel......fortunately it is no where near my "best" plants

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

derekbrooks
Tree

2530 Posts Posted - 10/09/2010 : 22:44:09
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Been cutting dahlias in the rain this morning.Some have spotted mainly medium decs and a few Kenora Challenger but I have enough to enter every class.Some of the giant decs have been covered but some Alf Ramseys that haven,t been covered are O.K.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 06:21:31
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Originally posted by derekbrooks

Been cutting dahlias in the rain this morning.Some have spotted mainly medium decs and a few Kenora Challenger but I have enough to enter every class.Some of the giant decs have been covered but some Alf Ramseys that haven,t been covered are O.K.

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I dread to think what mine will be like this morning.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 07:00:35
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A few dahlia cuttings, i am hoping to root and keep going through the winter.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 08:30:58
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Thats a good idea Tel. Might try that.....get a head start for next season....hope your dahlias are ok thismorning.....its been pouring all night

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

Rosie8032
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11991 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 09:23:28
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All this talk of dahlia's is getting me interested in having some for my garden, which would be the best to grow in possibly the coldest part of Scotland

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Back to Aberdeenshire Rosie

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 12:36:08
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Cut enough dahlias this morning for 9 vases, will take them this afternoon, then cut the rest this evening, ready to take in the morning.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 12:45:37
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Lovely stuff Tel Are they my Deborah's in the front

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

peony
Mrs

678 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 13:18:41
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Beautiful selection Tel, they all look like winners to me Are you propagating washing-up bowls too

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 16:20:44
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Originally posted by Loublou

Lovely stuff Tel Are they my Deborah's in the front

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They are Lou not as good has i would like, but they are on the bench now.
Will be going back down to the allotment when i have had something to eat, Kenora Challenger, Rossendale Peach and Ruby to look at yet.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 16:22:06
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Originally posted by peony

Beautiful selection Tel, they all look like winners to me Are you propagating washing-up bowls too

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They have pebbles in with bottomless pots for the tomatoes.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 17:02:22
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They look like prizewinners to my inexperienced eye.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 11/09/2010 : 19:08:06
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Originally posted by Rosie8032

All this talk of dahlia's is getting me interested in having some for my garden, which would be the best to grow in possibly the coldest part of Scotland

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Any of them Rosie, but you will have to plant out when there is no danger of any more frost.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

grindle
Mrs

15010 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 04:43:14
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they all look good to me

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 09:35:02
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There were 5 good entries in the Championship Class so far, when i left after staging this morning.
I asked the Show Secretary who the Dahlia Judge is, he replied they could not get one, so the Flower Judge will be judging the dahlias, so anything could win the Championship.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:21:22 GMT

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:21:22 GMT

While i was at the show this morning, i was talking to a mate and rival of mine John Oxley, (Derek may know him he had 7 first's at Southport show) John was judging in Scarborough yesterday, he asked me if i had been there, i told him i had never shown there, he told me i am sure i had heard your name mentioned.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 12:29:35
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That is because you have frightened your opposition and people are taking note of your results. Interesting! I know you are brilliant at what you do, but I would think the forum has spurred you on to do better.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 13:15:25
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Originally posted by Cherry

That is because you have frightened your opposition and people are taking note of your results. Interesting! I know you are brilliant at what you do, but I would think the forum has spurred you on to do better.
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It is a big help, you feel as though its not just for yourself you want good results, but also for your friends on here.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 17:05:41
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Cherry is right. I agree with your thinking too Tel... I know that while I was waiting for my results I kept thinking "If I don't win anything, how am I going to tell them on the forum"... and the encouragement we get on here is fantastic

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 17:14:21
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If I can mention sweet peas on a dahlia site, I learned lessons from Sweetpea which are really lasting. Therefore the forum was a great help with improving that area of my gardening. Now, I have trouble looking at sweet peas without thinking of them as show specimens. Bad!

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:05:20
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I am afraid we had to settle for second and third in the Championship today, i was pipped for 1st by my old rival and good friend John Oxley who also received the Silver Medal for best exhibit.
Sweet revenge he said for finishing second to me 2 years ago.
He deservedly won with 3 lovely vases, 2 vases of Kenora Challenger and a vase of Trelyn Kiwi.

This is my third place exhibit
One vase of Kenora Challenger, one vase of Gateshead Festival and a vase of Oreti Bliss small cactus.

This is my second place exhibit and this received the Bronze Medal for the runner up to the best exhibit.
At the back on the left is Ruby small decorative, to the right of that is Brenda T small decorative and at the front Kiwi Gloria small cactus.

In the miniature decs class my exhibit was 3rd

In the small cacus class i was 3rd again with Debra's Kiwi,
The other vase i had in this class Trelyn Kiwi spotted up over night on the bench. could not really get a good pic of the vase with it been behind other vases and we are not allowed to move other exhibits.

This is the winner of the small cactus class,
Ruskin Respectable.

I received a 1st in the ball dahlia class for Mary's Jomanda

I received a first for poms, Moorplace.

I received a 1st for Gateshead Festival, small dec

Receiving the Bronze Medal, the Grandaughter took my head off.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

steve
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25134 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 19:44:58
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Very well done Tel

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Steve
In Ilkeston

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 20:25:51
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Yes.....well done Tel....Your Mary's Jomanda are absolutely perfect....Deborah didn't do too badly....John Oxley's win was well deserved....beautiful blooms.
Ruskin Respectable?.....was this yours?....I like the look of it.
Out of interest, I know we on the forum are "prejudiced", do you think the "flower judge"....was right with his judging?
It will perhaps make you more "hungry" next year....you need to get that silver medal back....
I must get "Gateshead Festival" for next year...remember they sent the wrong young plants to me last year.
Moorplace is a lovely pom.....definately getting that next year...

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

derekbrooks
Tree

2530 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 21:55:16
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Well done,Tel

Janbrad
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1326 Posts Posted - 12/09/2010 : 22:15:08
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Congratulations on your successes Tel

grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 05:43:52
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well done Tel

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 05:59:22
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Originally posted by Loublou

Yes.....well done Tel....Your Mary's Jomanda are absolutely perfect....Deborah didn't do too badly....John Oxley's win was well deserved....beautiful blooms.
Ruskin Respectable?.....was this yours?....I like the look of it.
Out of interest, I know we on the forum are "prejudiced", do you think the "flower judge"....was right with his judging?
It will perhaps make you more "hungry" next year....you need to get that silver medal back....
I must get "Gateshead Festival" for next year...remember they sent the wrong young plants to me last year.
Moorplace is a lovely pom.....definately getting that next year...

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The Ruskin Respectable, was not mine, i do have it, new one to me this year, it needs double stopping to grow 16 up to keep it to size, mine is only just coming in to flower, will have to adjust stopping times for next year.

I think the Judge got the first two right, not sure he got the third one right though, i would have placed it 4th even though it was mine.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 06:12:45
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We arrived late at the show and with talking to John about dahlias, I grow 180 plants John grows 360 plants, the presentations had started, so the only other pics i took was the entrance to the show.
We had to push our way through to get to the exhibits.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

grindle
Mrs

15010 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 07:56:50
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certainly looks a very well attended show Tel, you had a nice day for it too

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 09:40:24
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If i have any dahlias for Harrogate, i want to go to the show on Friday this year, instead of Sat, because of the show on Sun.
Last year with attending the show on a Sat, i had to get away earlier than i liked to cut blooms for the Sunday.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Cherry
Moderator

13929 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 10:18:20
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Congratulations Tel. Beautiful blooms.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 19:36:12
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Growing Poms For Showing.
I thought i would give this snippet of information on the one thing you need to do with poms, that you do not have to do with other dahlias.
The calyx on the bloom is best removed, usually when it starts to show colour, this allows the bloom to make the golf ball shape.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 19:54:52
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Anyone got a spare £20 to give me for Harrogate, i have about 20 Dahlia Judges to bribe.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 21:06:55
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Originally posted by tel7772

Growing Poms For Showing.
I thought i would give this snippet of information on the one thing you need to do with poms, that you do not have to do with other dahlias.
The calyx on the bloom is best removed, usually when it starts to show colour, this allows the bloom to make the golf ball shape.

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Ah....thanks Tel.....another bit of information for "the book"

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 13/09/2010 : 21:08:00
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Originally posted by tel7772

Anyone got a spare £20 to give me for Harrogate, i have about 20 Dahlia Judges to bribe.

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Ha.ha.!!!....Tell Geoff Eliott you know me and you will win ok...lol

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 14/09/2010 : 15:16:17
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Ruskin Respectable, new to me this season, i will have to stop it a bit earlier in future, just coming into flower now.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 14/09/2010 : 16:51:29
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It is rather pretty.....I will have to look out for that one...tis on my list

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 15/09/2010 : 14:49:37
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Called down to the allotment after lunch, to check on any damage the wind and rain has done.
The Small Decorative Championship looks like it is out for another year.
The majority of all the dahlias are damaged in one way or another.
The majority of the classes for smalls and miniatures calls for five blooms to a vase, so the kiwi's are a no go, i would be lucky to get Three
The kenora Challengers that would have been ready are damaged so that variety is out.
I will have another look in the morning, i will take some thing even if it is only for the 4 single bloom classes i entered.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 15/09/2010 : 16:37:10
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At least you will have something Tel. Such as shame about the Small Decorative Championship. This dratted weather really is the pits
One of these years we will have perfect dahlia growing weather

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 15/09/2010 : 19:21:16
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After all that wind damage, that has now brought me down to less than 100 plants.
Would that make me eligible to enter, The Under 100 Plants CHALLENGE
This is for 3 vases of 3 blooms, i could manage that just.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:22:42 GMT

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:22:42 GMT

I hope you find enough to enter Tel, I'm looking forward to seeing the dahlias at Harrogate. Your entries in the Harden show all look beautiful especially the Mary's Jomanda!

esther
Tree

6010 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 12:26:27
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Your Dahlias are just so beautiful Tel

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 19:40:09
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Went down to the allotment this morning at 7am, to see if i could get a few vases for Harrogate.
Manage to cut enough for 2 multi vase classes and 4 single bloom classes.
Arrived at the show ground around 11am, with sandwiches and a flask of coffee, besides the NDS people i was the first one to arrive.
Had a word with Carl about putting in a late entry for the Under 100 Plants Challenge,because late entries in the schedule say's they will be taken after 5pm, but he bent that rule and let me have the late entry straight away.

The hall will not be like this tomorrow.

This is my entry in Class 28 the Under 100 Plants Challenge,
Ruby small decorative, Kiwi Gloria small cactus and Marston Lilac miniature decorative.

This is my entry in Class 36 a class for 3 vases.
Gateshead Festival small decorative, Oreti Bliss small cactus and
Marston Lilac miniature decorative.

I made 4 entries in the Single Bloom Classes, Class 82,for small decoratives, Gateshead Festival, Class 83,for miniature decoratives, Marston lilac, Class 84 for small cactus/semi cactus Ruskin Respectable, and Class 87 for miniature ball Mary's Jomanda

Not saying i will get any cards, but after the last 2 days, just happy, i now have an excuse to go tomorrow now.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

steve
Moderator

25134 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 19:57:13
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Looking good Tel

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Steve
In Ilkeston

sweetpea
Tree

8797 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 20:10:20
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is it supplied vases or your own Tel.
ps blooms looking good.

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Gardening in South Wales (Pembrokeshire)

peony
Mrs

678 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 20:14:10
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They look good Tel. Good luck for tomorrow.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 20:16:57
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Originally posted by sweetpea

is it supplied vases or your own Tel.
ps blooms looking good.

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The NDS supply all vases sweetpea,when i got there i had over 1000 to choose from.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 20:33:51
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They all look fantastic Tel. I'm so pleased you managed to get a reasonable number of entries......the last 3/4 days must have been particularly trying for you. (and Brenda)....Hope you enjoy tomorrow and I look forward to seeing your entries on Saturday.
Good Luck

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

Rosie8032
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11991 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 21:39:56
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Ohhhh good luck our Tel, hope it all goes well for you

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Back to Aberdeenshire Rosie

MotherGoose
Tree

18619 Posts Posted - 16/09/2010 : 22:35:31
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To my "untrained eye" your entries look fantastic Tel . Very best wishes for Harogate....I'm sure you don't need "Good Luck", your talent and experience will speak for itself

grindle
Mrs

15010 Posts Posted - 17/09/2010 : 05:31:20
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good luck Tel they all look like winners to me

SueA
Tree

4964 Posts Posted - 17/09/2010 : 14:23:20
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I agree they all look great, I bet you'll do well Tel, I have no idea what makes a prizewinner but your 'under 100' selection look like 'first prize' to me!

Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 17/09/2010 : 19:15:23
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All the very, very best for Harrogate Tel. I wish I could be there.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 17/09/2010 : 19:57:41
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Wish Tel would tell us how he got on...looks like I will have to wait until I see for myself tomorrow.......(sigh)

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 18/09/2010 : 13:29:18
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While i was at the show yesterday afternoon, the right hand bloom of Ruby, was starting to collapse, that will have gone all together before Lou gets there.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 18/09/2010 : 21:46:38
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It was still hanging in there Tel....just a few petals on the bottom

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

DahliaMan
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117 Posts Posted - 18/09/2010 : 23:07:36
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Originally posted by tel7772

While i was at the show yesterday afternoon, the right hand bloom of Ruby, was starting to collapse, that will have gone all together before Lou gets there.

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Hi Tel and everyone
I've just been catching up reading through the forum (dahlias) and have to say superb, particularly Tel. And love the sense of humour shown too (and why not). Tel thanks for mentioning my Trelyns at my first two shows. Although, largely known as a small cactus grower, I do consider I am an all rounder and have loved showing other types again this year. Particular surprise was Ryecroft Ruby (I only intended growing couple my cutting for cut flowers because my Mum is called Ruby) I grew 5 plants as was short of Scaur Sunset and have to say Ruby is gorgeous (raspberry red) and ideal for certainly village shows if not higher. I was very interested in Ruskin Respectable and thanks for saying how meeds double stopping. I am particularly interested in Marston Lilac min-dec, they look a class act (I grow Barbarry Pip/Karenglen/Ryecroft Venture, with the Pip being the best by far). I will post some pics if thats what other readers would like to see as soon as I have more time which should be soon. Regards, Paul

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Paul
from Cornwall, South West England

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 19/09/2010 : 06:22:25
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Hi Paul, its nice to hear from you again.
You certainly started your season off with some lovely Kiwi Exhibits, look forward to seeing more pics of your dahlias.
If you have any more shows left good luck in them.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 19/09/2010 : 08:09:37
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Yes Paul...good to hear from you again. We love looking at dahlia pics
You should try Marston Lilac...one of my favourites....it is the most gorgeous colour that pics don't do justice too.
Visit us again soon

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

DahliaMan
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117 Posts Posted - 19/09/2010 : 10:58:48
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Originally posted by Loublou

Yes Paul...good to hear from you again. We love looking at dahlia pics
You should try Marston Lilac...one of my favourites....it is the most gorgeous colour that pics don't do justice too.
Visit us again soon

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Hello Lou
Thankyou for kind words. Checking my records I see that I did grow Marston Lilac years ago. Why did I drop it? No answer on that one. I currently grow Barbarry Pip x 12, a gorgeous burgundy red mini-dec. I wanted to grow 24 but Station House couldnt supply that many and I wasnt aware until practically planting time. So I had 6 Ryecroft Venture from them, plus grew 6 Karenglen (I think Pip is a far better bloom than either). I still consider the best mini-dec I grew was Matston Velvet but those darn stems and had to drop it (). I am very tempted to order in Marston Lilac after seeing Tel's. I will put some pics up soon (have to read my instructions again LOL).
Take care all, Paul

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Paul
from Cornwall, South West England

DahliaMan
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117 Posts Posted - 19/09/2010 : 11:04:51
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Originally posted by tel7772

Hi Paul, its nice to hear from you again.
You certainly started your season off with some lovely Kiwi Exhibits, look forward to seeing more pics of your dahlias.
If you have any more shows left good luck in them.

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Hello Tel
Thank you. I consider together with my own efforts, I am very fortunate to be showing dahoias at a time when Kiwis (Trelyn, Gloria) are around because they are a class act, no doubt. Its great walking into a show knowing what you have will be particularly difficult to beat and I am able to grow it to a very high standard (I never blow my own trumpet but John Wheatley has been very appraising of my Trelyns saying they are as better then most in the country). However I have to say the surprise package this year was Ryecroft Ruby, with goreous deep form flowers, brilliant stems. It was one that from the cuttings all the way through they just 'looked right', I know fellow growers will know what I mean there.
Regards, Paul

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Loublou
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Yes Paul...good to hear from you again. We love looking at dahlia pics
You should try Marston Lilac...one of my favourites....it is the most gorgeous colour that pics don't do justice too.
Visit us again soon

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Hello Lou
Thankyou for kind words. Checking my records I see that I did grow Marston Lilac years ago. Why did I drop it? No answer on that one. I currently grow Barbarry Pip x 12, a gorgeous burgundy red mini-dec. I wanted to grow 24 but Station House couldnt supply that many and I wasnt aware until practically planting time. So I had 6 Ryecroft Venture from them, plus grew 6 Karenglen (I think Pip is a far better bloom than either). I still consider the best mini-dec I grew was Matston Velvet but those darn stems and had to drop it (). I am very tempted to order in Marston Lilac after seeing Tel's. I will put some pics up soon (have to read my instructions again LOL).
Take care all, Paul

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I saw Ruby "in the flesh" for the first time at Harrogate yesterday grown by Tel, and am very impressed and may try these next year....I must look out Pip as well. Karenglen....another of my favourites...won with them last year but they weren't ready for this year's show, which is earlier than most.....mid August......Look forward to those pics
Was interested to hear that you are a "cactus man"....I had a second with my Kiwi Gloria this year....Saw the miniature cactus at Harrogate (another first)...are there any you recommend....I liked Weston Stardust...

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

tel7772
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Lou i think Paul is talking about a different variety to the Ruby i have.

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Loublou
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Yes Paul...good to hear from you again. We love looking at dahlia pics
You should try Marston Lilac...one of my favourites....it is the most gorgeous colour that pics don't do justice too.
Visit us again soon

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Hello Lou
Thankyou for kind words. Checking my records I see that I did grow Marston Lilac years ago. Why did I drop it? No answer on that one. I currently grow Barbarry Pip x 12, a gorgeous burgundy red mini-dec. I wanted to grow 24 but Station House couldnt supply that many and I wasnt aware until practically planting time. So I had 6 Ryecroft Venture from them, plus grew 6 Karenglen (I think Pip is a far better bloom than either). I still consider the best mini-dec I grew was Matston Velvet but those darn stems and had to drop it (). I am very tempted to order in Marston Lilac after seeing Tel's. I will put some pics up soon (have to read my instructions again LOL).
Take care all, Paul

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I saw Ruby "in the flesh" for the first time at Harrogate yesterday grown by Tel, and am very impressed and may try these next year....I must look out Pip as well. Karenglen....another of my favourites...won with them last year but they weren't ready for this year's show, which is earlier than most.....mid August......Look forward to those pics
Was interested to hear that you are a "cactus man"....I had a second with my Kiwi Gloria this year....Saw the miniature cactus at Harrogate (another first)...are there any you recommend....I liked Weston Stardust...

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Hello Lou
The only miniature cactus/semi I have grown is Weston Pirate, and yes I'd thoroughly recommend it as a prolific bloomer, very goostems, beautiful burgundy blooms. Just be careful regards exhibition and the rings because if youre a little disbud happy they can go oversize. You could make a case for leaving wing buds on and until they are say 2 - 3 inches long then bending them over so they dont touch the centre bud bud do the job of taking some 'steam' out of that bud. Others I saw this year but haven grown - Weston Bucannear, what a gorgeous deep lilac, and my fellow grower has it under cover, the form is awesome. Weston Kelpie seen grown by another grower and again looks excellent.
Regards, Paul

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sweetpea
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Wish you well tel.

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Hello again Terry
What Ruby do you have because it looks like mine being Ryecroft Ruby small dec', raspberry red colour, deep form, dresses right back.
Regards, Paul

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from Cornwall, South West England

tel7772
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Hello again Terry
What Ruby do you have because it looks like mine being Ryecroft Ruby small dec', raspberry red colour, deep form, dresses right back.
Regards, Paul

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Hi Paul, i think we are talking about two different cultivars here.
Yours with the Ryecroft prefix will be their own raising, the ruby i have was released in 2009 i believe, it was raised in Northern Ireland by Dr Dorothy McMasters, i bought it from Frank Taylor's Dahlias in 2009 hope that helps mate.

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Loublou
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Originally posted by DahliaMan

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Yes Paul...good to hear from you again. We love looking at dahlia pics
You should try Marston Lilac...one of my favourites....it is the most gorgeous colour that pics don't do justice too.
Visit us again soon

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Hello Lou
Thankyou for kind words. Checking my records I see that I did grow Marston Lilac years ago. Why did I drop it? No answer on that one. I currently grow Barbarry Pip x 12, a gorgeous burgundy red mini-dec. I wanted to grow 24 but Station House couldnt supply that many and I wasnt aware until practically planting time. So I had 6 Ryecroft Venture from them, plus grew 6 Karenglen (I think Pip is a far better bloom than either). I still consider the best mini-dec I grew was Matston Velvet but those darn stems and had to drop it (). I am very tempted to order in Marston Lilac after seeing Tel's. I will put some pics up soon (have to read my instructions again LOL).
Take care all, Paul

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I saw Ruby "in the flesh" for the first time at Harrogate yesterday grown by Tel, and am very impressed and may try these next year....I must look out Pip as well. Karenglen....another of my favourites...won with them last year but they weren't ready for this year's show, which is earlier than most.....mid August......Look forward to those pics
Was interested to hear that you are a "cactus man"....I had a second with my Kiwi Gloria this year....Saw the miniature cactus at Harrogate (another first)...are there any you recommend....I liked Weston Stardust...

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Hello Lou
The only miniature cactus/semi I have grown is Weston Pirate, and yes I'd thoroughly recommend it as a prolific bloomer, very goostems, beautiful burgundy blooms. Just be careful regards exhibition and the rings because if youre a little disbud happy they can go oversize. You could make a case for leaving wing buds on and until they are say 2 - 3 inches long then bending them over so they dont touch the centre bud bud do the job of taking some 'steam' out of that bud. Others I saw this year but haven grown - Weston Bucannear, what a gorgeous deep lilac, and my fellow grower has it under cover, the form is awesome. Weston Kelpie seen grown by another grower and again looks excellent.
Regards, Paul

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Many thanks for that info Paul.....

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:30:43 GMT

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:30:43 GMT

I consider Trelyn Kiwi is the best for exhibiting being more even of colour and easier to match therefore, my favorite colour choice is Kiwi Gloria, Deborahs is a lovely colour but the petals are too 'streaky' for exhibiting against the other two.

Paul

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DahliaMan
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Hello Terry
I'd be interested in your advice. As a back up to Trelyn K. I have had very good results with Kelsae Carla. A downside is lack of cuttings with Kelsae, and I see this year it's not avalable in Halls advance list. This year I grew Yellow Wooton Olympiad, Ruskin Helen, Deborahs Kiwi and I would say the best all rounder here is 'Helen'. However, I am looking for a better form exhibition small cactus to back up Trelyn. I see you have grown Oretti Bliss/Ruskin Respectable and would welcome any advice you have of these 2 and other small cactus you have grown. I would be happy with a 'workhorse' dahlia, as you may see because I grow Scaur Sunset/Ryecroft Ruby for this reason.
Thank you, Paul

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Cherry
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Very nice Paul. It is a mad hobby but we enjoy the news and pictures and someone near you has the flowers.

tel7772
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I am growing Ruskin Respectable for the first time this season, double stopped and grown 16 up, the final stop was the first weekend in July, i have found this is far too late, and of the few that have flowered they were near to the rings or over size.
I saw one in the dahlia trials this year that Ryecrofts released last year called Ryecroft Grace, i like the look of this one for a multi vase class.

Oreti Bliss, was not too impressed to start with, but the last vase i cut was a great improvement, not as many petals as the kiwi but there is nothing around to beat the kiwi at the moment, but would make a good back up for you.

i have not grown anything else except the Athalie's before the kiwi came along.

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11991 Posts Posted - 21/09/2010 : 09:05:20
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What lovely Dahlias Paul, I really need to grow some next year

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Back to Aberdeenshire Rosie

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/09/2010 : 19:07:11
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Dahlia beds today, with two shows left to do.

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They look as good as ever Tel. No problem.

DahliaMan
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What lovely Dahlias Paul, I really need to grow some next year

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Hello Rosie
Thank you for reply. Growing dahlias for exhibiting is an addiction I think. If you are interested I have my own website primarily for dahlia cultivation, plus some poetry Ive written. My site is called Paul's Dahlia Guide (www.paulsdahliaguide.info)
Regards, Paul

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from Cornwall, South West England

DahliaMan
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Very nice Paul. It is a mad hobby but we enjoy the news and pictures and someone near you has the flowers.

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Hello Cherry
Thank you for comments. Must admit thou I have read your quote several times and you have me beaten as I'm not sure what you mean by 'someone near you has the flowers' and I cant resist but ask for an explanation (be gentle Im just a simple man).
Regards, Paul

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 22/09/2010 : 07:52:07
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Ooh Tel....wot a lot you got...plenty there to choose from eh

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What lovely Dahlias Paul, I really need to grow some next year

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Hello Rosie
Thank you for reply. Growing dahlias for exhibiting is an addiction I think. If you are interested I have my own website primarily for dahlia cultivation, plus some poetry Ive written. My site is called Paul's Dahlia Guide (www.paulsdahliaguide.info)
Regards, Paul

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I shall have a look at your site Paul, your in Cornwall too, been there the past few years for hols in between airshows

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I am growing Ruskin Respectable for the first time this season, double stopped and grown 16 up, the final stop was the first weekend in July, i have found this is far too late, and of the few that have flowered they were near to the rings or over size.
I saw one in the dahlia trials this year that Ryecrofts released last year called Ryecroft Grace, i like the look of this one for a multi vase class.

Oreti Bliss, was not too impressed to start with, but the last vase i cut was a great improvement, not as many petals as the kiwi but there is nothing around to beat the kiwi at the moment, but would make a good back up for you.

i have not grown anything else except the Athalie's before the kiwi came along.

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Originally posted by tel7772

I am growing Ruskin Respectable for the first time this season, double stopped and grown 16 up, the final stop was the first weekend in July, i have found this is far too late, and of the few that have flowered they were near to the rings or over size.
I saw one in the dahlia trials this year that Ryecrofts released last year called Ryecroft Grace, i like the look of this one for a multi vase class.

Oreti Bliss, was not too impressed to start with, but the last vase i cut was a great improvement, not as many petals as the kiwi but there is nothing around to beat the kiwi at the moment, but would make a good back up for you.

i have not grown anything else except the Athalie's before the kiwi came along.

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Hello Terry
The honest answer is a maybe. My shows are finished however there is a show on 16th October at St. Day. I havent entere it for several years but my mates Ted and Rosie Curnoe sent me a schedule after I asked them. The incentive I have to keep the dahlias going is that there is a Harvest Festival in the village where my parents live. Its 2 weeks later than usual and the money goes to charities so Im carrying on the watering etc. I believe you have 2 shows coming up?
Yours, Paul

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SueA
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4964 Posts Posted - 22/09/2010 : 20:06:54
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Just caught up with this section & saw your photos Paul they're beautiful dahlias, you dahlia growers are a very dedicated bunch!

DahliaMan
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117 Posts Posted - 22/09/2010 : 20:32:56
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Just caught up with this section & saw your photos Paul they're beautiful dahlias, you dahlia growers are a very dedicated bunch!

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Hello Sue
Dedicated is one word and Mad is another! Seriously once the bug has bitten its there for life I think. The cat in your avator is a tortie is that actually your cat? I only ask because we had a tortie and white and she was as pretty as any cat weve had (we have 4 at present but until recently had 5). You can check out my website too www.paulsdahliaguide.info
Regards, Paul

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SueA
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Yes Paul, she is our cat Amy a tortie & white moggy! It's a long story, she's 15 now & has been visiting our garden since she was a kitten, then a stray, then shared with neighbours & left to us about 4 years ago.
I don't think I have the patience or dedication to grow dahlias, I'm happy to just admire them!

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 22/09/2010 : 21:18:08
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I think you should give it a go Sue.....

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No chance, I'll leave that to the rest of you Lou! I have a large pot with a couple of limp dahlias in it in the back garden & that's as far as I'm ever likely to go!

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 23/09/2010 : 15:25:35
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Called down to the allotment to see what damage the heavy rain had done.Because it was quite still and damp, this morning, some of the blooms have marked.
Heavy rain and strong winds due in the next 24 hours.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 23/09/2010 : 15:47:23
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What a b****y nuisance for you Tel

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No chance, I'll leave that to the rest of you Lou! I have a large pot with a couple of limp dahlias in it in the back garden & that's as far as I'm ever likely to go!

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Just like any other plant in a pot Sue, they do need watering now and again.

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11991 Posts Posted - 23/09/2010 : 16:01:39
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Thats a bit of a bummer Tel. Hopefully you'll find some for the show.

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SueA
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No chance, I'll leave that to the rest of you Lou! I have a large pot with a couple of limp dahlias in it in the back garden & that's as far as I'm ever likely to go!

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Just like any other plant in a pot Sue, they do need watering now and again.

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I think mine get enough water from nature round here Tel, it is Manchester you know! I don't think I planted them out soon enough & they'd got a bit leggy & are tied very haphazardly to a few canes!
Hope the rain doesn't do too much damage to yours.

DahliaMan
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No chance, I'll leave that to the rest of you Lou! I have a large pot with a couple of limp dahlias in it in the back garden & that's as far as I'm ever likely to go!

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Just like any other plant in a pot Sue, they do need watering now and again.

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I think mine get enough water from nature round here Tel, it is Manchester you know! I don't think I planted them out soon enough & they'd got a bit leggy & are tied very haphazardly to a few canes!
Hope the rain doesn't do too much damage to yours.

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Hi Sue
Come to Cornwall and you can have as much rain as you like LOL.
I love the colouring of tortie and whites same as our Lucy before she died. We have 4 cats at the moment (our Siamese Sealpoint died at nearly 18yrs old very recently, and we have a Chocolate Persian for a short time and she died last week at 5 months old). We currently have 3 Birmans, and a ginger/white cat. We are all cat lovers here even if they can do thier thing around the dahlias.
Yours, Paul

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:32:14 GMT

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Sorry to hear about your cats Paul, it's hard when an old cat dies like your siamese but it must have been a real shock to lose the young persian. I've only ever had 'moggies', my first was a white persian cross when I was tiny, then a black stray kitten, then a gorgeous boxer dog (!) & now 'little miss trouble'.
I think I'm marginally better at looking after animals than I am dahlias!

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Maybe we should have a 'cat' thread on here as so many are cat owners/lovers which is usually at odds with gardeners as the two don't normally mix well.
To get back to dahlias, do you recall your first red card for a dahlia and what it was? (general question for all)
mine was for a LD (I think it was) for a variety called Boy Mick (yellow). I don't think it is listed any more. this was back in the early '70s.

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My first red card was in a novice class, for a Vase of Small decoratives, called Barbary Pinky, still have the variety and used it a few times in the mid nineties. It was and still is a lovely dec, but suffered from rubber stems no matter what potash you used.
I was once told it did better in poor soils, but i never had any poor soil to test the theory.
I think there is a bloom out now on the allotment, but it is not under cover, so no idea what state it will be in.
Will have a look tomorrow if there is one out i will post a pic of it.

Sorry to go on, one line should have been enough to sweetpeas question.

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tel7772
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My first Red Card outside of the novice class, was for 3 Hamari Gold, Giant Decoratives.

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I will find something for the show Rosie, but i need to find at least 3 different varities, for the 5 vase Championship.
If they do not mark over night, there is 3 very good Kenora Challenger, correction 3 superb Kenora Challenger, just need another 4 good vases though, but things can be better or worse by the time i go down, to cut them tomorrow afternoon.

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My first 'red' was 1979 at the London National Show(RHS Hall) Single vase, 5 blooms, min ball 'Downham Royal' (couldn't enter the novice section after that!)

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My first red card of showing was in my third year and for Best Rose on Show at our town show. For dahlias, cant recall but earliest memory is in 96 I won the Cornish Dahlia Society Best Novice In Show, then at their next show couple weeks later which was open to all I won Best Dahlias In Show. One my proudest moments I guess was a year later winning the West of England Best Novice In show award.
Before dahlias I exhibited disbud chrysanths ( I preferred the reflexes) and then for 3 years I exhibited Perpetual Carnations (I recall Malaga and Tony Langford were my favs). But then I met Ted and saw his amazining dahlias and I was hooked. The small cactus has always been my favourite class, and at the risk of stirring the growers of pompons and giants etc etc, I think the small cactus have overall the best formed dahlias of all the classes (but I guess other growers will say differently).
So next question to everyone is - what is your favourite dahlia class and or or cultivar (I still say variety)?
Paul

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tel7772
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I have a soft spot for the Small Decorative, must be because that is the one that started it all for me, Barbarry Pinky has a lot of memories for me, the friendly people i met, who became rivals and friends.
When i look at that dahlia, i remember the people i have met, who are no longer with us.

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Loublou
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A favourite eh?.............thats difficult cos I like most of them. I haven't been growing dahlias long....its all Tel's fault anyway...he encouraged me to "have a go"
At the moment my favourite is Miniature Decorative "Marston Lilac", such a fantastic colour....followed very closely by Amber Fetival, which I had my first success with in 2009.
I'm now getting very fond of cactus/semi cactus type....my "kiwis" have done well this year and I'm hoping to try some "mini" cactus next season......think I could do with another "lottie"..

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A favourite eh?.............thats difficult cos I like most of them. I haven't been growing dahlias long....its all Tel's fault anyway...he encouraged me to "have a go"
At the moment my favourite is Small Decorative "Marston Lilac", such a fantastic colour....followed very closely by Amber Fetival, which I had my first success with in 2009.
I'm now getting very fond of cactus/semi cactus type....my "kiwis" have done well this year and I'm hoping to try some "mini" cactus next season......think I could do with another "lottie"..

Your Marston Lilac must be big Lou, they are a min dec.

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Loublou
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Oops....of course they are......well it is a bit early in the morning Tel

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I will be cutting a vase of Ruskin Respectable, but these will be for Brenda, even though they have been grown 16 up has suggested by Dave Spencer, everyone is fractionally oversize.

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19838 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 09:17:04
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I'm sure Brenda will be delighted with them Tel....whatever size they are

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I will be cutting a vase of Ruskin Respectable, but these will be for Brenda, even though they have been grown 16 up has suggested by Dave Spencer, everyone is fractionally oversize.

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Ignore the last post, on Ruskin Respectable, i have just realised there is a class for any variety or varieties, if i had put the Ruskin Respectable in the small class, it would have been NAS, but in this class it should not get an NAS, because the variety has not been classified yet.

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117 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 12:56:50
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I'm strongly considering Respectable next year so am looking forward to seeing your photos of the same there Terry
Paul

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6890 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 13:24:56
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I'm strongly considering Respectable next year so am looking forward to seeing your photos of the same there Terry
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Mine have all been slghtly over size paul at 16 up.
I like it though and it can be grown without covers.

I will be taking 3 to the show for tomorrow, i will be taking pics of mine and other exhibits tomorrow.

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117 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 18:32:20
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I'm strongly considering Respectable next year so am looking forward to seeing your photos of the same there Terry
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Mine have all been slghtly over size paul at 16 up.
I like it though and it can be grown without covers.

I will be taking 3 to the show for tomorrow, i will be taking pics of mine and other exhibits tomorrow.

I look forward to seeing the pics Terry. As a mater of interest what feed/feeds do you use. Although I beleive Chempak 3 and 4 to be the popular choices I uae the Maxicrop range inc. Tomato Feed finally.
Paul

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 20:34:49
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I use the Chempac range .

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6890 Posts Posted - 24/09/2010 : 20:50:42
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For the Leeds Paxton Show, i have cut 6 Kenora Challenger's
9 Kiwi Gloria, 6 Trelyn Kiwi, 3 Debs Kiwi, 6 Ruby, 3 Gateshead Festival.

Placed 3 Kenora Challenger one to a vase for one class,
Vased up the the Ruby's, Debs Kiwi and Gateshead Festival.

The Gloria, Trelyn and the other 3 Kenora's are in bins on the allotment, I have no Mary's Jomanda, Marston lilac are a bit immature will look again at them in the morning along with Rossendale Peach, plus a quick look at everything else.

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6890 Posts Posted - 25/09/2010 : 05:39:00
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I have 3 Kenora Challenger cut and in the greenhouse, if they are ok this morning, they will be one of five vases for the Championship.
Just need to sort out what i consider to be the next four best vases to go with them, once they are all in vases this morning.

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grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 25/09/2010 : 05:48:30
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good luck Tel

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 25/09/2010 : 06:49:27
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Barbarry Pinky, small decorative the first dahlia i grew and exhibited.

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117 Posts Posted - 25/09/2010 : 08:41:01
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I have 3 Kenora Challenger cut and in the greenhouse, if they are ok this morning, they will be one of five vases for the Championship.
Just need to sort out what i consider to be the next four best vases to go with them, once they are all in vases this morning.

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All the best Terry. Whatever happens you know you have tried your very best, and hopefully result will reward endeavour.
Paul

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 25/09/2010 : 11:56:54
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When i left the Paxton Show after staging this morning, there were 3 entries all Siver Medal winners at Harrogate, in the 5 vase Championship.
I staged 1 vase of Kenora Challenger, 2 vases of Ruby, 1 vase of Kiwi Gloria and Lou will be pleased to hear i staged a vase of Debs Kiwi from the plants she sent me.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 26/09/2010 : 07:06:35
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This is the winning entry in the Championship, staged by Dennis Glover.

The exhibit of mine in second place.

This is the third placed exhibit, staged by John Bottomley

This is the vase of Gateshead Festival that won the Bronze medal for me.

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Miniature Cactus/Semi really seem to be taking off in a big way. The last couple of years I have grown Weston Pirate, an easy grower with tons of flowers. A real cracker Ive seen is from one my dahlia chums here in Cornwall, Peter Greenway, and its Weston Buccanear an amazing lilac colour, awesome form. Ive aleady asked him for a tuber and he told me Im the fourth person to ask him LOL.
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At the National Show at Shepton Mallet, exhibitors donated their spare blooms to a sales table, in aid of Help the Heroes.
Public purchasing these blooms were also very generous and the sale raised £600 for this deserving charity.

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I never saw that but the NDS did have a lovely display there

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After seeing all the wonderful photos of dahlias I am definitely going to grow some
Very Well Done Tel on all your success - you really desrve it

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 28/09/2010 : 08:32:06
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Hooray...someone else to join the happy band of dahlia growers on the forum. They are very addictive mind Esther, and will take up a lot of room I can let you have some cuttings in the spring

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Hooray...someone else to join the happy band of dahlia growers on the forum. They are very addictive mind Esther, and will take up a lot of room I can let you have some cuttings in the spring

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Thankyou Loublou Barry is going to get rid of all the old dahlias on the allotment - they have been terrible this year

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After seeing all the wonderful photos of dahlias I am definitely going to grow some
Very Well Done Tel on all your success - you really desrve it

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Welcome to the club Esther,
Thank you for your kind comment.

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6890 Posts Posted - 29/09/2010 : 19:54:55
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I have not been down to the allotment for 2 days with the weather.
The weather forecast for tomorrow is favourable so will be down there, if it looks there may be any for the show Sat, i will have to cut them Friday morning because the weather forecast for Friday afternoon is rain and strong winds.
I will bring them home and place them in the greenhouse, with the greenhouse fan going to keep the air circulating round them.
Any blooms that could have done with a few more hours of daylight will be brought into the kitchen and the lights left on all night Friday hopefully this will help them mature in time for the show.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 29/09/2010 : 21:04:58
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Ah....some useful tips there Tel....will have to remember them

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6890 Posts Posted - 30/09/2010 : 17:25:57
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I was going to cut the blooms that mark easy Fri morning, but looks like the bad weather will have already arrived.
will take a chance and cut some this evening if they do not last until the show, there is nothing i can do.
The more weather proof ones, i will cut tomorrow night, there is not much left though.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 30/09/2010 : 17:54:42
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Thats a shame Tel....pity the rest of the week can't be like today Fingers crossed you get enough for a vase or three. xxx

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6890 Posts Posted - 30/09/2010 : 19:52:05
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From my own point of view, if i do not have any worth taking Sat morning, i will be disappointed, not for me for missing the chance to win any cards, but for the show itself, because it needs all the exhibitors it can get.

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6890 Posts Posted - 30/09/2010 : 20:24:11
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These are the young blooms i brought home tonight, they are nowhere near ready, the centres have not closed up on the Trelyn Kiwis in the first picture and the depth is not there yet.They are in the kitchen overnight with the lights left on.

The second picture is Kenora Challenger the centres are still too big.

The third picture is Sir Alf Ramsey another young bloom, it is a good thing that it is, because it fell out of the bin on the allotment and damaged a lot of petals in one area, these have been removed now, leaving a big gap, the bloom hopefully will have closed that gap by Sat morning if it survives that long.

They will be placed in the greenhouse tomorrow, then if need be brought back in tomorrow night and left in the kitchen with the lights left on overnight.

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peony
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678 Posts Posted - 30/09/2010 : 20:44:00
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They all look great to me Tel. Sir Alf Ramsey is a lovely colour. Hope they come up to your high standard in time for the show

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 16:35:12
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Went down to the allotment this morning, before the rain started.
Managed to cut 3 Marys Jomanda, 6 Ruby, 6 Marston Lilac and 3 Gateshead Festival, they are in the shed with a window in.
Yesterday i cut 3 of that terracotta coloured seedling and a Alf Ramsey, they would have been just right for a show today, they are in a shed with no windows in, trying to hold them back for tomorrow.

So i have a some that will be ok for tomorrow, some that are having the light left on to try and bring them forward, then i have those that i am trying to hold back until the show.

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19838 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 17:12:01
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This weather has not been kind to you this week Tel.....I have been wondering how you are coping today.....the weather is pretty aweful (to put it mildly) here as well. Hope your efforts to get them "right on the night" (day) work out for you. The best of luck for the show....at least you know everyone is in the same boat...fingers crossed

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19838 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 17:13:08
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I'm hoping to get to the lottie tomorrow to see what sort of state the dahlias are in....depending on the weather.....haven't seen them for over a week

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6890 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 17:29:10
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I do not think the 3 Kenora Challengers will be ready in time for the show, but one is further forward than the others so i will put that in the single bloom class for large or giants along with Alf Ramsey.
Favorites for the 3 vase Championship is Kiwi gloria, Ruby and Mary's Jomanda,at the moment, but that could change tomorrow.

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13929 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 17:47:25
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I feel confident for you Tel because everyone will be in the same boat. Cliche, but it is wet enough.

grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 19:28:26
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good luck for tomorrow Tel

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 19:35:51
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I do not think the 3 Kenora Challengers will be ready in time for the show, but one is further forward than the others so i will put that in the single bloom class for large or giants along with Alf Ramsey.
Favorites for the 3 vase Championship is Kiwi gloria, Ruby and Mary's Jomanda,at the moment, but that could change tomorrow.

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Thats the name of the game....xx

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6890 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 20:24:01
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I feel confident for you Tel because everyone will be in the same boat. Cliche, but it is wet enough.

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Not like a bit of pressure Cherry, But i will have something to put in they are not the best i have had this season, but for this time of the year, they are not bad, i am especially pleased with Ruby this season, even now, i have in my opinion (this my be censored) a ****** good vase.

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13929 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 20:37:53
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Let's hope then Tel. Ruby is a stunner and not ruby coloured at all, but almost a soft red.

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6890 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 20:43:31
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Let's hope then Tel. Ruby is a stunner and not ruby coloured at all, but almost a soft red.

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Your right Cherry, i wonder why the raiser gave it that name, but i have not seen a red dahlia that stands the weather nor fades like this one, i love it, even though a lot of judges will go for the Winholme Diane, but for anyone without covers it is well worth growing.

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6890 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 20:48:16
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Will be interesting to see how my seedling goes on tomorrow in the Min Dec Class, if it is still ok in the morning, when i take it out of the dark shed.

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19838 Posts Posted - 01/10/2010 : 21:10:46
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I particularly hope your seedling does well Tel
As regards naming of blooms...as in the case of Ruby and Marston Lilac for instance.......don't know where they get 'em from.....must be colour blind
I'm lucky in as much as I have a good eye for colour...."Ruby" ain't ruby and Marston Lilac is no where near "lilac"......
I may well try Ruby next year...

No pressure Tel......you will do well tomorrow......

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6010 Posts Posted - 02/10/2010 : 06:10:43
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Good Luck for today Tel

longs
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436 Posts Posted - 02/10/2010 : 08:59:38
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I particularly hope your seedling does well Tel
As regards naming of blooms...as in the case of Ruby and Marston Lilac for instance.......don't know where they get 'em from.....must be colour blind
I'm lucky in as much as I have a good eye for colour...."Ruby" ain't ruby and Marston Lilac is no where near "lilac"......

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Perhaps Tel should call his seedling 'Terrycotta'

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I'm not sure how you would call the Ryecroft Ruby I grow in terms of colour. I grow Scaur Sunset which I imagine would be scarlet and Ruby is a deeper red. Also Marston Lilac when I grew it if I remember correctly isnt as deep as lilac so maybe a darkish mauve!!!
Interesting though bout coolours, anyone ever seen Blue Moon the rose? Nowhere near blue LOL
Yours Paul

ps. good luck Terry

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13929 Posts Posted - 02/10/2010 : 14:26:05
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Longs. That is a great name. Tel should breed one to go with the name.

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19838 Posts Posted - 02/10/2010 : 16:36:24
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I particularly hope your seedling does well Tel
As regards naming of blooms...as in the case of Ruby and Marston Lilac for instance.......don't know where they get 'em from.....must be colour blind
I'm lucky in as much as I have a good eye for colour...."Ruby" ain't ruby and Marston Lilac is no where near "lilac"......

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Perhaps Tel should call his seedling 'Terrycotta'

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A grand name Longs..

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:37:44 GMT

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another great result for you Tel, well done. Was this the last of the shows?

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Yes the Dahlia shows are now over for another year, this season has to go down as my best season ever.
This is the first time i have done the seven shows and won a medal at everyone of either silver or bronze.
The silver at Harrogate is the highlight of the season for me and one i will never forget.

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6890 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 07:34:47
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After i had vased up the seedling and placed it on the bench, i was placing more of the dahlias into a vase, when Dennis came over and told me i had placed it in the wrong class.
Dennis had mistaken it it for the variety Jomanda.

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19838 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 07:48:06
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another great result for you Tel, well done. Was this the last of the shows?

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Yes the Dahlia shows are now over for another year, this season has to go down as my best season ever.
This is the first time i have done the seven shows and won a medal at everyone of either silver or bronze.
The silver at Harrogate is the highlight of the season for me and one i will never forget.

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I don't think we will forget it either Tel...It has certainly been a difficult season weatherwise, but you have overcome it and "produced the goods" every time. Wonderful season for you Looking forward to next season already

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15010 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 08:33:17
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another great result for you Tel, well done. Was this the last of the shows?

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Yes the Dahlia shows are now over for another year, this season has to go down as my best season ever.
This is the first time i have done the seven shows and won a medal at everyone of either silver or bronze.
The silver at Harrogate is the highlight of the season for me and one i will never forget.

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Here's to 2011 then

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 14:58:55
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With the medals won this season, that takes the tally up to 34 Silver and 24 Bronze, but it is easier to win a medal at local shows now than it was 10 years ago, there is less exhibitors today.

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19838 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 15:34:28
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That is a good haul Tel.....its a shame that there is less competition about these days......pity you didn't live nearer....

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436 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 15:38:06
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With the medals won this season, that takes the tally up to 34 Silver and 24 Bronze, but it is easier to win a medal at local shows now than it was 10 years ago, there is less exhibitors today.

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Time to concentrate on the big shows then, Tel.

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6890 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 16:02:31
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Originally posted by longs

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With the medals won this season, that takes the tally up to 34 Silver and 24 Bronze, but it is easier to win a medal at local shows now than it was 10 years ago, there is less exhibitors today.

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Time to concentrate on the big shows then, Tel.

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Either that, or dump the dahlias and try something else.

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19838 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 16:03:39
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I'm not sure how you would call the Ryecroft Ruby I grow in terms of colour. I grow Scaur Sunset which I imagine would be scarlet and Ruby is a deeper red. Also Marston Lilac when I grew it if I remember correctly isnt as deep as lilac so maybe a darkish mauve!!!
Interesting though bout coolours, anyone ever seen Blue Moon the rose? Nowhere near blue LOL
Yours Paul

ps. good luck Terry

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Isn't it interesting how people see colour...Marston Lilac to me is a strong magenta with purplish tones. To me lilac is like the flower of that name..pale or mid lilac........Your right about Blue Moon though Paul....not blue at all....a muddy purple....lol.....

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19838 Posts Posted - 03/10/2010 : 16:04:57
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Originally posted by tel7772

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Originally posted by longs

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Originally posted by tel7772

With the medals won this season, that takes the tally up to 34 Silver and 24 Bronze, but it is easier to win a medal at local shows now than it was 10 years ago, there is less exhibitors today.

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Time to concentrate on the big shows then, Tel.

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Either that, or dump the dahlias and try something else.

and pigs might fly....lol

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6890 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 07:46:50
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Originally posted by tel7772

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Originally posted by longs

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Originally posted by tel7772

With the medals won this season, that takes the tally up to 34 Silver and 24 Bronze, but it is easier to win a medal at local shows now than it was 10 years ago, there is less exhibitors today.

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Time to concentrate on the big shows then, Tel.

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Either that, or dump the dahlias and try something else.

and pigs might fly....lol

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There will be no flying pigs round here,

I have already told him upstairs, that when i leave this earth i am not prepared to go in the first nine months of the year, it would have to be the month of October, i am not going to waste 9 months ****** work for nothing.

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19838 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 08:10:30
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lol....tell him to make it November, which is usually miserable weather anyway, then you have October to enjoy picking bunches for Brenda...and.....you won't have to dig all those tubers up!!

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117 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 16:30:09
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LOL

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4964 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 17:20:16
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Lovely pics. Tel & well done on the great results!

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 17:29:59
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After i had vased up the seedling and placed it on the bench, i was placing more of the dahlias into a vase, when Dennis came over and told me i had placed it in the wrong class.
Dennis had mistaken it it for the variety Jomanda.

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The seedling and Jomanda.

I can see why Dennis thought i had placed the seedling in the wrong class.

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4074 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 19:25:10
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A fantastic season Tel, very well done.

I see I have a lot to learn, one flower just looks slightly larger than the other

Now I need to you to come right back to the basics. Many of my dahlias are looking worse for wear, some have stopped flowering altogether, can I dig them up yet or do I need to wait for the first frost? They were fine until we had all this wet weather and I’m a bit concerned something nasty might be happening underground.

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6890 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 19:29:21
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If they are still green leave them has long as possible, Nov if the frost has not touched them.

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OK, thank you.

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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly

A fantastic season Tel, very well done.

I see I have a lot to learn, one flower just looks slightly larger than the other

Now I need to you to come right back to the basics. Many of my dahlias are looking worse for wear, some have stopped flowering altogether, can I dig them up yet or do I need to wait for the first frost? They were fine until we had all this wet weather and I’m a bit concerned something nasty might be happening underground.

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The size does not matter here, it is just to show how the seedling (Terrycotta) was mistaken for a well known show variety.

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 04/10/2010 : 21:15:19
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Its amazing how close the colour is.......

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4074 Posts Posted - 05/10/2010 : 07:39:19
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This is one of my biggest bugbears when it comes to flowers. The slightest variation and it’s a new flower. I have a number of flowers in my garden that you can only tell apart with minute scrutiny, what a rip off. I can understand with show flowers but not garden flowers.

Someone posted a photo of Dahlia “Twilight” which would have gone very well in my dahlia bed. It was on my shopping list but when it turned up at my local garden centre (at a hugely inflated price because it was new) the flowers were more pink that white. I’m not talking white with a hint of pink, they were pale pink. How can this possibly be sold as Twilight when Twilight has pure white flowers?

All I can conclude from this is you can have a tiny change and it’s a new flower or a massive change and it’s the same flower. To my logic this doesn’t work, someone is taking the mick.

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6890 Posts Posted - 06/10/2010 : 16:08:25
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Taking the covers of one of the dahlia beds today, put this together between the showers.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 06/10/2010 : 16:29:12
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That looks lovely Tel.....very patriotic

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15010 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 04:47:15
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very good Tel

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117 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 11:38:08
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Very good Terry. Now if only dahlias came in black I could do the Cornish St. Piran flag as below

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6890 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 15:56:28
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Very good Terry. Now if only dahlias came in black I could do the Cornish St. Piran flag as below

Paul

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 15:58:01
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Received my Silver Medal from the Harrogate show today.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 17:16:08
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Thats quick!!!....bet you have been re-living the show all over again....A close up pic of it....and you holding it...would be rather nice

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6890 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 19:22:11
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4074 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 19:28:01
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That’s fabulous Tel, I’m not sure what I was expecting but it wasn’t anything as impressive as that, I bet you’re proud of that one.

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11738 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 19:33:06
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Congratulations Tel, it's well deserved.

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 20:29:21
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Isn't it a beauty......a thing to be treasured....I see we didn't get a pic of "himself" holding it....!!

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8797 Posts Posted - 07/10/2010 : 23:48:21
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nice one

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6890 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 13:43:00
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Isn't it a beauty......a thing to be treasured....I see we didn't get a pic of "himself" holding it....!!

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I did not want to upstage the Medal.

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 15:21:28
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Originally posted by tel7772

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Isn't it a beauty......a thing to be treasured....I see we didn't get a pic of "himself" holding it....!!

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I did not want to upstage the Medal.

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Sort of knew you would say something like that our Tel

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6890 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 20:02:52
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Rang the allotment department this afternoon, about the allotment next to ours, all i got was their B, answer machine, went through all i had said before and left my Tele No and asked them to ring me back, if they do not ring back on Monday, i will be on the case again.
Until i find out one way or the other i cannot make plans on what to grow for next seasons shows.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 20:04:12
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That’s fabulous Tel, I’m not sure what I was expecting but it wasn’t anything as impressive as that, I bet you’re proud of that one.

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I would not mind another to keep it company.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 20:05:13
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Good work Tel. Keep chipping away. You may think you are getting nowhere, but your name keeps going forward.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 20:12:58
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Good work Tel. Keep chipping away. You may think you are getting nowhere, but your name keeps going forward.

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I will Cherry i need that allotment to fulfill my ambition of having a entry in the Small Decorative Championship at Harrogate.

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 08/10/2010 : 21:18:53
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A new "neighbour" on our allotment site got her garden by keep on nagging the committee.....she is 5th on the list, but is now the proud owner of a plot......Have a word with Brenda, she will give you a few tips

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6890 Posts Posted - 09/10/2010 : 08:12:49
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If i take a bin full of dahlias down to her office, i wonder if that would persuade her to get her finger out.

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19838 Posts Posted - 09/10/2010 : 08:31:09
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You can but try Tel......

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:40:15 GMT

Will have to start cutting the stems with seed heads and hang them in the greenhouse at home to dry, it is surprising how many varieties do not make any seeds at all, i have had seed pods with just one seed in, then another may have 20 or 30 in it.

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19838 Posts Posted - 09/10/2010 : 20:56:47
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Ah....thats the way to do it eh!!will have to give it a go..

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6890 Posts Posted - 10/10/2010 : 07:53:15
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Ah....thats the way to do it eh!!will have to give it a go..

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The kiwi's have never made any seed for me Lou, let me know if yours have made any.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 10/10/2010 : 08:11:09
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I'll have a look the next time I am down at the garden..too wet at the minute

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6890 Posts Posted - 10/10/2010 : 08:22:00
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I'll have a look the next time I am down at the garden..too wet at the minute

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You may have seed pods, i have had some, but no seeds.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 10/10/2010 : 15:12:31
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Had a quick look thismorning Tel. No Kiwi seed heads ready....will be another week before all the petals fall. Have left all of them on the plants

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6890 Posts Posted - 10/10/2010 : 19:51:39
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Left my seed heads a bit longer too, just squeezed the moisture out of them.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/10/2010 : 09:06:14
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Plants that have just been kept for stock plants this season.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/10/2010 : 19:12:50
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Cut a few more this morning.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 11/10/2010 : 19:59:57
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I bought 6 plants of a small semi/cactus called Embrace at the begining of the season, dug them up today and put them in the compost bin, do not rate it at all.

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 11/10/2010 : 20:36:14
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The allotment still looks tidy, even at the end of the season.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 12/10/2010 : 08:37:02
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Originally posted by Cherry

The allotment still looks tidy, even at the end of the season.

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There is still quite a few weeds there, but these will be removed when the beds are dug over.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 12/10/2010 : 08:46:56
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I find it quite difficult to get dahlia cuttings to root at this time of the year, but i have managed to root 1 Rycroft Grace small cactus and 1 Rycroft Peace Min Decorative.

Rycroft Grace

Rycroft Peace

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 12/10/2010 : 09:04:04
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Both lovely....how long did it take for the cuttings to strike?...I think I have Rycroft Grace as a possible for next year...she is very pretty

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6890 Posts Posted - 12/10/2010 : 09:08:06
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They have been in the propagator for over 4 weeks, there is a couple more in there i thought had took root, because they are growing, but they still have not rooted.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 19:35:38
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

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Originally posted by Cherry

Good work Tel. Keep chipping away. You may think you are getting nowhere, but your name keeps going forward.

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I will Cherry i need that allotment to fulfill my ambition of having a entry in the Small Decorative Championship at Harrogate.

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I will be the new tenant of this pristine allotment, by the end of the month, maybe sooner.

I wonder if the garden designers could use this shed in their garden for Chelsea flower show.

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pennyron
Tree

11738 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 20:05:18
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Best check it's not listed as a world heritage site.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 20:19:22
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Does this mean that you have got it

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6890 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 20:22:03
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Unofficially i have been told so, but i will not do anything until i receive it in writing.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 21:13:23
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Thats great news Tel.......and a relief for you

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436 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 21:18:18
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A lick of paint, a bar stool and a keg of Adnams would suit me fine

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13929 Posts Posted - 13/10/2010 : 21:20:40
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I won't congratulate you yet then, but there are the makings of a great greenhouse on that site. Do you think there is mares' tail under those weeds.

grindle
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15010 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 04:30:40
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it looks like a show garden already Tel

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 07:31:52
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I won't congratulate you yet then, but there are the makings of a great greenhouse on that site. Do you think there is mares' tail under those weeds.

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There is mares tail on there Cherry, just like our other two, but i can live with that because it seems to have no effect on the dahlias, they are all i will grow on there.
All been well i will be able to grow more varieties next season and enter more classes.

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Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 07:58:30
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

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Originally posted by Cherry

I won't congratulate you yet then, but there are the makings of a great greenhouse on that site. Do you think there is mares' tail under those weeds.

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There is mares tail on there Cherry, just like our other two, but i can live with that because it seems to have no effect on the dahlias, they are all i will grow on there.
All been well i will be able to grow more varieties next season and enter more classes.

Music to your ears eh Tel...

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Dahlias 2010 Season, Part 2 Jan 20, 2011 3:41:31 GMT

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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2011 3:41:31 GMT

I will not be having any greenhouses or huts on this one Cherry.
We have the two greenhouses and two huts on the other two allotments, that is sufficient for our needs.
Any donations of second hand timber would be greatly appreciated,
Preferably 4x4 and 3x2 to build a frame work for covering the dahlias.

Would love a poly tunnel but i am afraid funds will not run to that.

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 16:29:40
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
All been well i will be able to grow more varieties next season and enter more classes.

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I really think you should be saying fewer varieties with more plants of each if you are serious about moving up a notch

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Cherry
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13929 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 18:23:54
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That is a good point. I cut down my sweet pea varieties, just in case I decide to show them.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 19:38:47
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Originally posted by longs

quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
All been well i will be able to grow more varieties next season and enter more classes.

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I really think you should be saying fewer varieties with more plants of each if you are serious about moving up a notch

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The Small Decorative Championship, is my main aim, i will be growing 5 varieties for that, and increasing from 20 plants to 50 for each cultivar, if i cannot get 5 blooms from what should be 300 blooms i give up.

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:12:59
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
The Small Decorative Championship, is my main aim, i will be growing 5 varieties for that, and increasing from 20 plants to 50 for each cultivar, if i cannot get 5 blooms from what should be 300 blooms i give up.

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50 plants should be a minimum ( I used to grow a min of 75 of any one variety) If the SD championship is your goal, and it's a very hard one too, then all your concentration must be on those 5 varieties at the expense of all others. You will have to be totally concentrated and single minded on those, believe me! Just make sure you choose the varieties that are ones you can grow well and are show winners.
Sorry if this sounds like a 'this is the way to do it', please accept that I'm just trying to give some help/advice gained from past experience.

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6890 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:16:47
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quote:
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Originally posted by longs

quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
The Small Decorative Championship, is my main aim, i will be growing 5 varieties for that, and increasing from 20 plants to 50 for each cultivar, if i cannot get 5 blooms from what should be 300 blooms i give up.

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50 plants should be a minimum ( I used to grow a min of 75 of any one variety) If the SD championship is your goal, and it's a very hard one too, then all your concentration must be on those 5 varieties at the expense of all others. You will have to be totally concentrated and single minded on those, believe me! Just make sure you choose the varieties that are ones you can grow well and are show winners.
Sorry if this sounds like a 'this is the way to do it', please accept that I'm just trying to give some help/advice gained from past experience.

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Thanks for that longs, i will take your advice, and grow more than the 50

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longs
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436 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:23:25
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Thanks for that longs, i will take your advice, and grow more than the 50

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However many you decide to grow - grow 'em to perfection

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6890 Posts Posted - 14/10/2010 : 20:30:04
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Originally posted by longs

quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772
Thanks for that longs, i will take your advice, and grow more than the 50

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However many you decide to grow - grow 'em to perfection

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i promise i will try my best lol.

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 15/10/2010 : 08:19:24
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Originally posted by tel7772

I will not be having any greenhouses or huts on this one Cherry.
We have the two greenhouses and two huts on the other two allotments, that is sufficient for our needs.
Any donations of second hand timber would be greatly appreciated,
Preferably 4x4 and 3x2 to build a frame work for covering the dahlias.

Would love a poly tunnel but i am afraid funds will not run to that.

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I’ve got a roll of that green wind-break stuff, , there are a few holes in it but most of it is sound. I could dig it out of the shed and take a photo of it so you could see if it is any use.

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6890 Posts Posted - 15/10/2010 : 08:37:00
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quote:
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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly

quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

I will not be having any greenhouses or huts on this one Cherry.
We have the two greenhouses and two huts on the other two allotments, that is sufficient for our needs.
Any donations of second hand timber would be greatly appreciated,
Preferably 4x4 and 3x2 to build a frame work for covering the dahlias.

Would love a poly tunnel but i am afraid funds will not run to that.

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I’ve got a roll of that green wind-break stuff, , there are a few holes in it but most of it is sound. I could dig it out of the shed and take a photo of it so you could see if it is any use.

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That is very kind of you WLF, that is the one thing, i have from when i put wind break on the other dahlia beds.
I will have to price up the cost of re claimed timber, at the place i bought the last lot from, polythene will be priced up too. but i will not need that lot until next Spring.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 15/10/2010 : 19:52:29
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The new allotment will keep me busy over the winter and there was i thinking i may get bored during the winter months.

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25134 Posts Posted - 15/10/2010 : 20:48:38
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can you get a good mobile signal from there Tel?

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 15/10/2010 : 20:53:31
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can you get a good mobile signal from there Tel?

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What you say you hope not.

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6890 Posts Posted - 16/10/2010 : 07:54:17
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Listening to the weather forecast, i maybe digging the dahlias up earlier than i would like, next week.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 16/10/2010 : 08:38:19
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I must be psycic then our Tel...

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4074 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 09:18:22
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I dug a few of my Dahlia “Dark Angels” up yesterday and there were only roots and no tubers. I was under the impression that all dahlias grew tubers, I’m quite disappointed as I was hoping to grow them again next year.

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19838 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 09:27:03
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I've had that happen in the past WF...but to "garden" dahlias. Perhaps Tel may know why this happens?

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6890 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 10:25:59
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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly

I dug a few of my Dahlia “Dark Angels” up yesterday and there were only roots and no tubers. I was under the impression that all dahlias grew tubers, I’m quite disappointed as I was hoping to grow them again next year.

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I have not grown this one, but there is a few show dahlias that do not form tubers very well, the exhibitors grow a few pot tubers to make sure they have stock for the following season.

If you have any left in the ground try and leave them a bit longer, dahlias usually make their tubers Sept/Oct.

If you do not have any left, if you buy any next year, you could do what i do either grow a few in small pots or plant the pot into the garden,planted in the garden still in a pot is what call my dual purpose plants i still get the blooms and a slightly larger pot tuber

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 11:04:16
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Thanks Tel, I didn't dig them all up I left those which still looked heathy.

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19838 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 16:35:45
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I've learned something there....I didn't realise it was so late in the year when the dahlias made their tubers. I know now why you were anxious when I lifted some of mine last week. Fortunately these were tubers from last year
I checked some of my pot tubers today and they have formed well...

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11738 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 17:16:04
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Tel, do the tubers carry on growing if the frost knocks off the foliage?

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 18:27:19
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The tubers stop once the frost hits the tops. that is why in wet and cold areas gardners can lose them, i start lifting mine once they have been blackened by the frost.

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6890 Posts Posted - 17/10/2010 : 18:31:00
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quote:
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Originally posted by tel7772

quote:
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Originally posted by Wildlife_friendly

I dug a few of my Dahlia “Dark Angels” up yesterday and there were only roots and no tubers. I was under the impression that all dahlias grew tubers, I’m quite disappointed as I was hoping to grow them again next year.

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I have not grown this one, but there is a few show dahlias that do not form tubers very well, the exhibitors grow a few pot tubers to make sure they have stock for the following season.

If you have any left in the ground try and leave them a bit longer, dahlias usually make their tubers Sept/Oct.

If you do not have any left, if you buy any next year, you could do what i do either grow a few in small pots or plant the pot into the garden,planted in the garden still in a pot is what call my dual purpose plants i still get the blooms and a slightly larger pot tuber

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Sorry should have said they bulk up their tubers Sept/Oct.

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DahliaMan
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I usually leave my tubers until the last week November or first week December before lifting. By then I feel if they havent formed a tuber then they never will. If I awaited frosts down here in Cornwall then I could be waiting into January/February or so.
I have heard of some people digging earlier, in fact I was talking to my mate Ted yesterday and he has been cutting down and digging up maybe within a week, but Ive never done the task that early.
Regards, Paul

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I usually leave my tubers until the last week November or first week December before lifting. By then I feel if they havent formed a tuber then they never will. If I awaited frosts down here in Cornwall then I could be waiting into January/February or so.
I have heard of some people digging earlier, in fact I was talking to my mate Ted yesterday and he has been cutting down and digging up maybe within a week, but Ive never done the task that early.
Regards, Paul

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From memory the longest i have been able to leave the tubers in the ground, is the second week in November.
Normally the frost hits them before October is out, up here.

Tuber formation i find with mine, some of the cactus varieties, make the poorest tubers.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 19:26:46
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Picked some dahlia seed pods this morning, i am now on the easy list,tripped on the allotments and wrenched my arm, quite painful trying to steer the car on the way home.
This computer mouse is all over the place now, because i am using the wrong hand to guide it.
A frost forecast here for tomorrow night, if it bumps the dahlias off, they will have to wait a few days, until i am fit to dig them up.

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pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 19:45:34
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Sorry to hear of your arm Tel.

sweetpea
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8797 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 20:14:19
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You'll get used to it tel. but its not easy. I'm in much the same boat here
Anyway, a question for you:
I downloaded hall's dahlia list and in the column headed 'sub categories' there are a few abbreviations I can't figure out.
I reckoned DwfB is dwarf bedder but what would ID and FD stand for?
Not fims as the are down as Fims.
The ID and FD initials are against all Decs if that is any help.

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6890 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 20:25:16
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Last year they changed the classifications for decorative varieties they split them into formal and informal so at the National and Harrogate they had separate classes for them.
Thankfully they did see a bit of common sense and now they can be shown in the same classes, the formal decs out number the informal by a long way.
to cut it short SP, ID is informal FD is formal
Hope that helps.

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sweetpea
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8797 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 20:32:04
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Last year they changed the classifications for decorative varieties they split them into formal and informal so at the National and Harrogate they had separate classes for them.
Thankfully they did see a bit of common sense and now they can be shown in the same classes, the formal decs out number the informal by a long way.to cut it short SP, ID is informal FD is formal
Hope that helps.

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certainly clears up the mystery. Thanks tel.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 21:00:38
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Hope your arm is better soon Tel

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13929 Posts Posted - 18/10/2010 : 22:18:14
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Tel you must have strained a muscle in your arm. Sounds sore, but hopefully it will get better quickly. The frost won't affect the tubers with all the top growth to get through first. I picked two large vases of dahlias this evening.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/10/2010 : 12:34:14
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I could not believe how much better my arm was when i got up this morning.
Yesterday i could not cut my bacon or sausage because any pressure i put on the knife was excruciating.
Should be 100% tomorrow, and i may be able to make a start on lifting the dahlias if the frost has blackened them overnight tonight.

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25134 Posts Posted - 19/10/2010 : 12:39:29
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I should give the texting a rest for a while Tel

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/10/2010 : 12:55:26
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Good advice Steve, i was going to text this to you.

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tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 19/10/2010 : 20:00:31
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Called down to the allotment this afternoon, just to place a few pots of dahlia plants into the greenhouse, these were some varieties that i have only 2 or 3 plants off, not taking a chance of losing them.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 19/10/2010 : 20:08:12
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Far rather be safe than sorry eh Te.....I've put a few of my pot tubers in the greenhouse...just in case they get their toes nipped

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6890 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 04:32:50
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Mark sends his regards, to all the Forum Members, he is sorry he has not been around, but since the single bloom show at the Midlands Dahlia Society, his health as taken a nose dive and everything has to be put on hold, until he is well enough to resume.

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13929 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 08:14:40
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So sorry you are not well Mark. Please get better quickly and let us know when you are well again. It was good of you to let us know.

Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 08:28:54
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Ah....we wondered where you had got to Mark. You take care, get well soon and ready yourself for another dahlia season.

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6890 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 19:45:54
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A lot of the dahlias have been damaged by last nights frost, the frost is forecast again for tonight, that should just about finish them off for this season.

Collected a few seed pods from them this morning, to dry off.

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13929 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 19:53:05
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We had no frost and mine are good, so I will get more bunches before lifting them.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 19:57:31
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We had no frost and mine are good, so I will get more bunches before lifting them.

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I was hoping they would last until Nov, but Mother Nature thinks otherwise.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 21:20:40
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A lot of the dahlias have been damaged by last nights frost, the frost is forecast again for tonight, that should just about finish them off for this season.

Collected a few seed pods from them this morning, to dry off.

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Ah...thats a shame Tel Mine are ok, so far

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2530 Posts Posted - 20/10/2010 : 23:04:59
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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 06:36:40
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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

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The problem is when they get cut down in Oct, the more chance we have of losing them in the longer storage period.

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Loublou
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19838 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 08:26:20
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Thats a good point Tel. I will be keeping a careful watch over mine when they go into storage.

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13929 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 09:04:24
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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

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The problem is when they get cut down in Oct, the more chance we have of losing them in the longer storage period.

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We had our first light frost last night. Should I leave the dahlias to really show they have felt the frost before lifting them? I did not know they were in danger if lifted too early.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 09:45:44
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Originally posted by Cherry

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Originally posted by tel7772

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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

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The problem is when they get cut down in Oct, the more chance we have of losing them in the longer storage period.

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We had our first light frost last night. Should I leave the dahlias to really show they have felt the frost before lifting them? I did not know they were in danger if lifted too early.

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I would leave them until the tops are blackened completely.

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Will do Tel.

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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

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The problem is when they get cut down in Oct, the more chance we have of losing them in the longer storage period.

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We had our first light frost last night. Should I leave the dahlias to really show they have felt the frost before lifting them? I did not know they were in danger if lifted too early.

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I was going to ask that question Cherry, at least that’s one less job for today. I will go out and label them all so I know which is which when they are all the same shade of mushy black.

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13929 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 10:35:19
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I left the labels in the pots in the ground, and will tie them on when they are lifted. I may get rid of the ordinary varieties which keep growing, not matter how hard the winter. I will enjoy that.

Yesterday, I did some cleaning up around the old cold frame and (again) made a silent rule that I must label my plants. Cleaning up here is not what you imagine. It includes weeding and removing nettles. I had to cover the chook feeder with chicken wire to deter whatever pest is eating my crocus and daffs.

tel7772
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6890 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 15:35:22
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There were no further damage to the dahlia plants, when i had a look this afternoon.
Will leave them a bit longer now.

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derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 20:29:38
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Yes so would I

derekbrooks
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2530 Posts Posted - 21/10/2010 : 20:41:21
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Dahlias blackened

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4074 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 07:38:18
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Should I be digging manure into the bed I’m going to grow my dahlias in next year now?

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4074 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 17:42:28
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I think you will agree that my dahlias are dead.

When I cut the tops off do I leave a couple of inches of stem or cut them down to ground level?

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11738 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 17:56:45
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As dead as John Cleese's parrot. Are you intending to put them back there next year ? only if...........I'll wait 'till you reply

Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 19:16:38
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Yes I am, it’s the only bed I can keep relatively slug free.

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6890 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 19:17:31
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Should I be digging manure into the bed I’m going to grow my dahlias in next year now?

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Only if you think it needs manure, some growers use manure as a mulch during June/July not fresh of course.
I usually spread chicken pellets or growmore a couple of weeks before planting. But my soil is in good heart anyway, thankfully.

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6890 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 19:23:23
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I think you will agree that my dahlias are dead.

When I cut the tops off do I leave a couple of inches of stem or cut them down to ground level?

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I would cut the stems down to 6-8 inch place them upside down for a week or so to let any moisture drain away, any tubers that have been accidentally chopped in to, when the cut dry's dust with green/yellow sulphur powder to prevent rotting.

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Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 19:41:24
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Thanks Tel. Would I get sulphur powder from a normal GS or is it a bit more specialized?

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6890 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 19:54:19
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Any garden centre should have it, WF

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2530 Posts Posted - 22/10/2010 : 22:49:49
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I cut them down to about 6 inches,knock a screwdriver down the hollow stem and out at the bottom to release any water trapped in the stem then stand them upside down in boxes under the greenhouse staging.
I dig in well rotted manure every winter.

pennyron
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11738 Posts Posted - 23/10/2010 : 06:52:37
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Yes I am, it’s the only bed I can keep relatively slug free.

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I see, good point.

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4074 Posts Posted - 23/10/2010 : 07:23:00
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But my soil is in good heart anyway, thankfully.

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Lucky you Tel. This is what my soil looks like at one spades depth, it turns to concrete in the summer and it’s solid and sticky in the winter.

I shall be digging all my dahlias up tomorrow, today is forecast to be very wet down here.

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Maybe you could use it to make a wall with WF Do you think it's because over the centuries it's built up of silt from the river. It's going to take an awful lot of organic matter not to mention work.

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4074 Posts Posted - 23/10/2010 : 08:06:27
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I’m gradually getting the soil to improve. Below this there is a two inch layer of clay and then shingle, it is right on the edge of the flood plain so you are probably right.

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13929 Posts Posted - 23/10/2010 : 15:43:45
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My soil is very rich, but I must not make you jealous. You could lose your spade in it.

Wildlife_friendly
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4074 Posts Posted - 25/10/2010 : 07:16:00
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I’d love your soil Cherry but gradually changing mine from concrete into dark crumbly soil is very satisfying.

I dug all my dahlias yesterday and they are now upside down in cardboard boxes drying out. I did damage two tubers as I was lifting them, do I wait until they are dry and clean before dusting them with sulphur powder?

Only two of the twelve Dark Angel dahlias grew tubers and they are only the size of large marbles, I hope they will be big enough to grow next year.

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6890 Posts Posted - 25/10/2010 : 07:20:44
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I’d love your soil Cherry but gradually changing mine from concrete into dark crumbly soil is very satisfying.

I dug all my dahlias yesterday and they are now upside down in cardboard boxes drying out. I did damage two tubers as I was lifting them, do I wait until they are dry and clean before dusting them with sulphur powder?
Only two of the twelve Dark Angel dahlias grew tubers and they are only the size of large marbles, I hope they will be big enough to grow next year.

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Dust them before you store them away.

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4074 Posts Posted - 25/10/2010 : 07:26:15
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Morning Tel and thank you.

When they are dry and clean you'll have to take me through the process of storing them. Last year I just left them on the floor on news paper, it worked but they did get in the way.

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6890 Posts Posted - 25/10/2010 : 20:46:36
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Morning Tel and thank you.

When they are dry and clean you'll have to take me through the process of storing them. Last year I just left them on the floor on news paper, it worked but they did get in the way.

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When the stems have dried out, after a week or two, store the tubers the right way up in boxes or any other suitable containers.
Just cover the fleshy parts with damp compost.
Store them somewhere frost free, i would check on them every month, if any are badly shrivelled try immersing them overnight in a bucket of tepid water.
This should plump them up again, make sure they are dry, before placing them back in storage.

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4074 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 09:03:26
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Thanks tel

Do mice eat them? We have quite a high mouse population here. I stored my potatoes in the shed one year and the mice nibbled every single one.

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We have mice down on the allotment, they left mine alone.

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Thanks tel

Do mice eat them? We have quite a high mouse population here. I stored my potatoes in the shed one year and the mice nibbled every single one.

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Live and let live but....perhaps you should have a quiet word with your mice WF. Tell them if they ate one whole potato and you wouldn't 'go after them with a carving knife'

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Mine were all black this morning.Since I began keeping records in 1965 it has only happened earlier than this 5 times.From 1965 till 1980 it didn,t happen in October at all.

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The problem is when they get cut down in Oct, the more chance we have of losing them in the longer storage period.

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We had our first light frost last night. Should I leave the dahlias to really show they have felt the frost before lifting them? I did not know they were in danger if lifted too early.

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I was going to ask that question Cherry, at least that’s one less job for today. I will go out and label them all so I know which is which when they are all the same shade of mushy black.

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A good frosting does two things; it drives the sap into the tuber and swells it and also makes the tuber dormant and stops the tuber continuing to sprout shoots when it should be resting. But it does mean storing for longer!

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6890 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 10:42:11
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Hi Richard, welcome to the forum, are you a dahlia person then.
We would be interested, on your thoughts and any tips on the subject.

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Hi Richard, welcome to the forum, are you a dahlia person then.
We would be interested, on your thoughts and any tips on the subject.

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Yes Terry, brought up on a nursery specialising in dahlias and chrysants. Used to go to all the big shows during my school summer holidays in the 60's so mixed with the other big growers of the time. Treseders, Oscroft, Ayletts, John Crutchfield where we, generally, won the top prizes for commercial growers.

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25134 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 12:33:33
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Welcome to the forums Richard

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6890 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 12:37:24
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I remember Fred very well used to bump into him at the Harrogate Show nearly every year during the 90s
June his daughter is high up in the National Dahlia Society these days.
Hope you stick around with us.

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I am out of touch with growers these days, I have very happy memories of the shows; Shrewsbury in the days of Percy Thrower, Southport the week after, fortnightly at the RHS Halls Vincent Square, the National, the Great Autumn ... We used to grow under glass for Chelsea which was always a challenge getting them to flower in quantity at the right time.

I never went to Harrogate though.

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11991 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 13:03:40
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Hi Richard, and welcome to the forum It's nice to get another dahlia lover here too

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6890 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 14:14:59
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I am out of touch with growers these days, I have very happy memories of the shows; Shrewsbury in the days of Percy Thrower, Southport the week after, fortnightly at the RHS Halls Vincent Square, the National, the Great Autumn ... We used to grow under glass for Chelsea which was always a challenge getting them to flower in quantity at the right time.
I never went to Harrogate though.

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I can imagine, i have enough trouble trying to get them to flower for the right month.

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4074 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 15:27:16
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A good frosting does two things; it drives the sap into the tuber and swells it and also makes the tuber dormant and stops the tuber continuing to sprout shoots when it should be resting. But it does mean storing for longer!

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Hi Richard and welcome to the forum.

Should I have left mine in the ground a little longer? We had two -2 degree frosts two days apart. I lost so many last winter that I might have been a bit eager this year. When I dug them up this year all the leaves were mush but the stems were still solid.

I’m novice dahlia grower, I’ve only ever grown a few single flowered garden dahlias. Next year (with a lot of help from tel7772) I shall be growing my first show dahlias to enter into our local show.

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If I can I leave mine in the ground for a few days after the frosts but in recent years we've not had a frost until well into November so I lifted them in early Nov when they were in full flower still! The issue is then how to stop them from continuing to shoot!

Mine succumbed to two nights of -4/-5C last Wednesday and Thursday, well, actually just the Wednesday was enough to blacken them! I will be lifting later this week, the important thing is that they do not get waterlogged. I'll then get them under cover with a little heat to allow them to drain as quickly as possible otherwise the stems rot destroying the nodes from which they will shoot.

These early frosts should be good for dahlias as it allows them to become dormant for some weeks before being start off again in January (if one raises cuttings from them .. and is there any other way to get exhibition quality blooms?)

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19838 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 17:21:27
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Welcome Richard....its good to have another Dahlia fan on the forum. I have read your comments on frosting with great interest. We have only had one "frosting" here on the coast in Northumberland...so I have some time yet before mine need lifting. Were are you based?

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48 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 17:26:19
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Hello Lou, I'm in West Sussex and it got very cold last week I can tell you!

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I am quite keen on re-establishing some of the "old" varieties, there were some terrific dahlias around when I were a mere boy. Does anyone know where I might get, for instance, Liberator? This is a deep Ruby Red Giant Dec and I think raised in Australia in the 1940's (before my time, just) Also some reflex medium decs; First Lady, Kismet, Sterling Silver.

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4074 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 18:08:46
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I'll then get them under cover with a little heat to allow them to drain as quickly as possible otherwise the stems rot destroying the nodes from which they will shoot.

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What needs to drain? I have mine upside down in the conservatory which ranges between 10-20 degrees and has good air circulation. Should I be regularly checking the stems? (I did say I was a complete novice but I do want to learn).

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Upside down in a conservatory in 10-20 degrees is great. Dahlias are high water content plants and all the sap/moisture in the stems needs to drain otherwise the crown will rot destroying the nodes from which the shoots will sprout.

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6890 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 19:43:49
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I am quite keen on re-establishing some of the "old" varieties, there were some terrific dahlias around when I were a mere boy. Does anyone know where I might get, for instance, Liberator? This is a deep Ruby Red Giant Dec and I think raised in Australia in the 1940's (before my time, just) Also some reflex medium decs; First Lady, Kismet, Sterling Silver.

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Richard, Try here for the Kismet dahlia.
www.winchestergrowers.co.uk/

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DahliaMan
Mr

117 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:11:40
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Hello Richard and welcome
I am a dahlia nut and have been exhibting for 16 years (carnations before this and chrysanths before that). Dahlias are very popular in Cornwall. Check out my website (my hobby not job!) called Paul's Dahlia Guide (paulsdahliaguide.info).
I have had most success with Trelyn Kiwi and I have always favoure the small cactus cultivars (Trelyn, Kiwi Gloria, Kelsae Carla etc). Though well known in Cornwall as a sc grower I consier Im an all rounder and among others for 2010 grew 24 Trelyn, 12 Babrbarry Pip, 16 Marys Jomanda, etc.
Look forward to reading your thoughts.
Regards, Paul

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Paul
from Cornwall, South West England

RichardR
Mr

48 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:18:42
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Thanks Terry, I've seen that at NDC but it isn't the Kismet I am looking for!

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This is Sterling Silver and Kismet is the same reflex formation and terra cotta / bronze colour. First Lady is yellow and there was also a red but I cannot remember the name. Dave Bates lists both as available from NDC but they are not listed on their website so I guess they have lost them?

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Cherry
Moderator

13929 Posts Posted - 26/10/2010 : 20:23:55
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Welcome Richard. It is interesting to read another dahlia enthusiast's views of this mad hobby. Each expert has a different approach and some novices here are keen to learn.

sweetpea
Tree

8797 Posts Posted - 27/10/2010 : 00:24:25
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Hi Richard.
Just my own view but I never bother with lifting tubers any more. Always grow a few pot tubers of each variety as they are so much easier to deal with and almost foolproof. (idiot proof in my case)
Not currently growing but intend to get back into it soon hopefully.
Mention of some of the old varieties brings to mind the wonderful Hamari varieties bred by Pi Ensum who lived just down the road from me at Worcester park and was often at our shows and giving talks etc.

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Gardening in South Wales (Pembrokeshire)

tel7772
Mr

6890 Posts Posted - 27/10/2010 : 10:33:16
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I have been quite fortunate with the frost last week, only one variety had to be lifted decause the foliage had been killed off.
The rest of the dahlias have damage i estimate at 30% and with the weather looking favourable they can be left in now until November.

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Terry in Bradford, Yorkshire.

Wildlife_friendly
Mrs

4074 Posts Posted - 27/10/2010 : 12:44:07
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I had a few I grew in pots and moved them into the greenhouse before the frosts, should I take them out of the pots in November or leave them in the pots over winter?

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Encouraging wildlife in Devon.

Loublou
Mrs

19838 Posts Posted - 27/10/2010 : 14:51:21
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I left some in the pots they grew in last year...and overwintered them in the greenhouse....they came through ok

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The answer lies in Northumberland soil.

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