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Post by merlin on Nov 24, 2011 7:23:54 GMT
OK it won't affect us directly as most of us are retired but unless the public sector workers back down, it looks like we'll be affected in other ways. They'll see how people power in the Middle East can work and I've a feeling they'll not give in.
We seem to be entering 'troubled waters' what with the financial mess and it's set to worsen.
What bothers me is that this Country is in such debt that we can't even write down the figures without running out of ink!
It's going to take a very long time to get straight and I guess it's you and I who'll pay....one way or another, or I should say one way and another
Happy Christmas ;D
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Post by sweetpea on Nov 24, 2011 18:08:13 GMT
Nothing affects me merlin ;D I've been indestructable for many years and skint for most of them too so unless the world comes to an end I will continue to enjoy it. As the saying goes, 'The best things in life are free.' just believe it.  |
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Post by Lou78W on Nov 24, 2011 20:09:28 GMT
Nothing affects me merlin ;D I've been indestructable for many years and skint for most of them too so unless the world comes to an end I will continue to enjoy it. As the saying goes, 'The best things in life are free.' just believe it. I couldn't have said better myself SP....you have the right attitude....rock on!!...and enjoy  ;D  |
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Post by seaburn on Nov 24, 2011 21:32:35 GMT
I will be affected as my pension is clearly under threat. and I am at that 'funny age'. No comments needed on this point  Cameron suggests that employers should allow employees to take their children in to work as they might not be able to get childcare sorted. This sends the message that teachers are childminders. A minimum of 4 years at uni to be a child minder, no wonder they are cross. If they dont pay the teachers and nurses a decent wage they are short changing society. sorry rant over |
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Post by merlin on Nov 25, 2011 6:40:08 GMT
Society in general have always thought that the Public sector have had 'advantages'. Well whether or not, the 'big picture' tells me that in order that the UK keeps ahead of the game internationally, we must educate much better and that has a cost. As for nurses It's said that if we pay them a lot, it would attract the wrong sort. Wouldn't it be nice if we could show our appreciation and respect by giving them perks. Subsidised travel, energy, services for example. The Gov respects us old fogies with a buss pass and fuel allowance but those of us who can live without it may rather see it go to those who really need it. Surely it would be better to raise the tax threshold. One thing that the Gov hasn't got is the money, they've given it all to the banks ;D The unfair bit is that I like you (I suspect) had nothing to do with the debt crisis but guess who will have to pay to get the books in order  Whatever they do I for one will get poorer and I'm well past that Seaburn's "funny age" Never mind, we don't have to pay duty on our Home-made wine so if it gets worse we have the antidote  The Chancellor's statement on Tuesday will be interesting if nothing else |
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Post by Tel on Nov 25, 2011 7:31:14 GMT
 Has a trade union member for the majority of my working life, i will stick to dahlias on this one. 
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Post by merlin on Nov 25, 2011 8:29:55 GMT
Has a trade union member for the majority of my working life, i will stick to dahlias on this one. No taking up one or two tubers then Tel, one out all out ;D |
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Post by sweetpea on Nov 25, 2011 16:42:16 GMT
IMHO The most important people are the teachers. (at least the ones who CAN teach) as without education you have nothing or should I say, NOTHING.
as for all this gumf about how wonderful nurses are, forget it!
They are people just like the rest of us and just like the rest of us there are excellent, good, bad and indifferent ones. Indeed there are murderers amongst them or at least there were. Beverley Allott comes to mind.
As a patient I have experienced some wonderful nurses and some downright awful ones, they are not all angels as so often is said in the press. Likewise not all serving in the armed forces are heroes. Some are idiots usually in the officer class and some are the dregs of society and some are gallant and brave beyond measure.
The point is, you can't tar all with the same brush.
I would even go so far as to say that not ALL politicians are bad.
ps I like to grow dahlias too ;D
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Post by Cherry on Nov 25, 2011 17:21:02 GMT
I am glad I am not married to you SP, you think the same way as my husband. Maybe you are glad you are not married to me. I don't worry about these political problems, I am not very brainy, so I don't have to suffer Open University subjects and exams like my husband does and I am always optimistic.
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Post by sweetpea on Nov 25, 2011 17:52:30 GMT
I am glad I am not married to you SP, you think the same way as my husband. Maybe you are glad you are not married to me. let me think about thatI don't worry about these political problems, I don't worry period!I am not very brainy, I don't believe that for a minute cherry so I don't have to suffer Open University subjects and exams like my husband does I did OU but never suffered :)and I am always optimistic. |
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Post by Cherry on Nov 25, 2011 20:35:32 GMT
You went to OU. Clever you SP. It does keep my husband busy which is a blessing.
However, I am now having to become familiar with the crankshaft, connecting rod and piston and piston offset. This helps with my reading of the instructor's notes for the courses. If the instructors can get through to me, they will be fine in the classroom.
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Post by sweetpea on Nov 25, 2011 20:56:17 GMT
You went to OU. Clever you SP. It does keep my husband busy which is a blessing. However, I am now having to become familiar with the crankshaft, connecting rod and piston and piston offset. This helps with my reading of the instructor's notes for the courses. If the instructors can get through to me, they will be fine in the classroom. Nothing clever in going to OU cherry. The clever bit is learning all the stuff they teach you and getting through the exams.  I did the science foundation course which was brill but after that my next step was the Astronomy course but that was when my car packed in and I wasn't able to get to the tutorials so had to drop out that one. As you probably know, it isn't all distance learning. I still have the course work for Astronomy though I daresay some of it will be dated by now. As I worked for the Post Office then, I got them to pay part of the fees plus I still got paid while at summer school so not a bad deal for me. Does David find it hard going? I know that I had to learn how to learn and then it was fine. |
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Post by Cherry on Nov 26, 2011 6:02:55 GMT
SP, he is one of those happy people who actually enjoy exams. He passed meteorology with one of the questions on weather in Sydney at 100%. This was when he was going for commercial pilot and leaving the RAF. He did French at OU to gain points because he has already done a translators' course at university in Geneva for the RAF. He is now on Napoleon as part of, well I don't know really. He has his coastal skipper from when he had a yacht. He got this at Lossiemouth school. He has done lots more, but I can't remember it all.
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Post by sweetpea on Nov 26, 2011 16:04:25 GMT
SP, he is one of those happy people who actually enjoy exams. He passed meteorology with one of the questions on weather in Sydney at 100%. This was when he was going for commercial pilot and leaving the RAF. He did French at OU to gain points because he has already done a translators' course at university in Geneva for the RAF. He is now on Napoleon as part of, well I don't know really. He has his coastal skipper from when he had a yacht. He got this at Lossiemouth school. He has done lots more, but I can't remember it all.  |
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Whatever they do I for one will get poorer and I'm well past that Seaburn's "funny age" Never mind, we don't have to pay duty on our Home-made wine so if it gets worse we have the antidote 
Has a trade union member for the majority of my working life, i will stick to dahlias on this one. 
