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Post by Moonlight on Aug 1, 2014 19:03:09 GMT
I'm growing 2 variegated dahlias, Clearview Jenny which was released last year and Candy Jayne which I really liked because it looked like a dahlia that had had a can of paint thrown at it. Jenny seemed from the photos to have a slightly more delicate variegated.
My Dad's more of a purist. He didn't like Clearview Louise last year so he binned it. I quite like it myself. We are both growing Clearview Audrey, mine is flowering and looks alight but Dad already has said that if his are the same he won't be growing it next year because the colour on the petals isn't good enough.
It's all a case of each to their own. I think my Dad is always chasing perfection and if the form is slightly out or the colour on the petals is random then...
Maybe that's one of the reasons I like Candy Jayne because it is so random.
Each to their own. Scrumpy I agree with you Clearview Louise might be quite popular, I like it.
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Post by ian on Aug 1, 2014 22:42:31 GMT
Now then Clearview Jenny would be a problem matching up but great in the garden, a talking point for sure and one joe public would love I bet
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Post by ian on Aug 1, 2014 22:58:46 GMT
The definition of a bi colour or variegated is one which the main colour is tipped, striped or splashed with another colour ie Clearview Jenny. One of the best Bi colours is a medium semi cactus called Kenora Sunset a yellow bloom tipped with red a striking bloom very difficult to match up but looks fantastic in the garden and in a vase. Another similar would be Aloha, Station House should have both.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 8:15:56 GMT
The definition of a bi colour or variegated is one which the main colour is tipped, striped or splashed with another colour ie Clearview Jenny. One of the best Bi colours is a medium semi cactus called Kenora Sunset a yellow bloom tipped with red a striking bloom very difficult to match up but looks fantastic in the garden and in a vase. Another similar would be Aloha, Station House should have both. I agree Ian. I grew kenora sunset two years ago, and was one of my favourites, I even have a large photo I took, put on canvas which hangs in the hallway. Last year I had aloha last year which is very similar, unfortunately the tuber didn't make it through the winter. This year I have Vuurvogel and Bora bora, which are slightly different, but not as good. Mark
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Post by Raymond on Aug 13, 2014 22:49:26 GMT
Hi I am a new dahlia enthusiast growing dahlias for the firsts time this year and have grown reasonably successfully 56 plants in my borders and pots all from tubors. I am looking at new more exciting varieties for next year that are heavy bloomers up to 1.2 meters in med to large size not dinner plate. All categories except ball.
I don't know if you have any suggestions. I am not looking to show in the future do not have the time or space sadly.
I must say some of the dahlias grown by you all are truly spectacular .
My avatar is one of mine called Lake Michigan beautiful colour .
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Post by Raymond on Aug 24, 2014 10:33:03 GMT
I think my new favorite ferncliff illusion Attachments:
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Post by Raymond on Aug 24, 2014 18:33:02 GMT
Fairly happy with these in the front garden not exhibition quality but nice all the same .
White perfection
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Post by Raymond on Aug 24, 2014 20:32:40 GMT
My main dahlia border so many mistakes but first year so not totally horrendous ! I can't wait until next year ! New varieties colour and much much bolder and brighter. Will also try some exhibition quality blooms as I might enter the members novice class in Kent next year lots of planning and organising and digging to do
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Post by scrumpy on Aug 24, 2014 20:55:09 GMT
My main dahlia border so many mistakes but first year so not totally horrendous ! I can't wait until next year ! New varieties colour and much much bolder and brighter. Will also try some exhibition quality blooms as I might enter the members novice class in Kent next year lots of planning and organising and digging to do For showing, and you'll soon get the bug, I think you may have to change all the varieties you have  You have to decide how many you can grow in your borders ( for smalls space about 2 foot apart) and go from there. Quite a few exhibition varieties make good garden plants, so you don't have to show them but will get a good garden display. |
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Post by Raymond on Aug 24, 2014 22:06:57 GMT
My main dahlia border so many mistakes but first year so not totally horrendous ! I can't wait until next year ! New varieties colour and much much bolder and brighter. Will also try some exhibition quality blooms as I might enter the members novice class in Kent next year lots of planning and organising and digging to do For showing, and you'll soon get the bug, I think you may have to change all the varieties you have You have to decide how many you can grow in your borders ( for smalls space about 2 foot apart) and go from there. Quite a few exhibition varieties make good garden plants, so you don't have to show them but will get a good garden display. Cheers scrumpy if you have any suggestions as the main thing is the look of the border competition is secondary. This border is being made bigger moving out all the perennials which you can't see from behind the dahlias. Also creating a new border in front garden that should hold about 10 to 12 large ones maybe more depending on how big I make it. I also have 2 other beds in the front and another bed in the back that is mixed perennials with 15 bedding dahlias. I also have various pots with dahlias as well. Definetly going for colour shape and size next year ! Are Hapet varieties exhibition quality ? I have short listed kenora sunset, Weston Spanish and hillcrest candy ancer which I believe are exhibition standard I do love grenidor pastelle and rose Jupiter. When I have done my short list can I message you and tell me what you think. Would like some different stuff though as you always see the same ones usually in the winners enclosure. All the best and have a great week and I hope things with the plants improve ! Raymond |
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Post by scrumpy on Aug 25, 2014 9:04:51 GMT
I've not grown the varieties you've listed. Without covers, the smalls do better in the rain. Plus, with smalls and miniatures you get more blooms per plant.
The ones in the winners enclosure are there for a reason.....they look good if you can grow them well, and not everyone can.
Check out Halls of Heddon and Station House sites, have a look through the pictures. They list ones that can grow well in the rain.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 9:18:22 GMT
I've not grown the varieties you've listed. Without covers, the smalls do better in the rain. Plus, with smalls and miniatures you get more blooms per plant. The ones in the winners enclosure are there for a reason.....they look good if you can grow them well, and not everyone can. Check out Halls of Heddon and Station House sites, have a look through the pictures. They list ones that can grow well in the rain. Totally agree with scrumpy, what looks in a novices eyes good in the garden wont have a hope in hell on the showbench, border dahlias except selective star and collerettes are ones for the local shows and then and only then if the entries are crap. Aim high, be selective, join a specialist society. Most of all obtain good stock. Forum member 'Ian' didn't win two National indervidual championships from tubers bought at wilko's. Showing is a reality check, in five years time you will look back at your old bed of in your eyes prize winning dahlias and think what on earth did I grow them for. Only grow what you can look after, 50 well grown dahlias with the time put in will always beat 200 that have been neglected. Every 100 plants grown equates to an hour a day every day, not when you feel like it. I work on mine 3 hrs a day Monday - Friday. Then 10 hrs on Saturday and a further 10 hrs on Sunday, much more during show season. Hens the reason my wife Marie packed her bags and buggered off in May and I didn't notice she had gone till the end of June. No, seriously she didn't and being a dahlia widdow isn't for all good wife's, husbands, G'friends or like. I'm lucky she moans a lot but she is the first to give me hug if I do well or if I'm down and need a bit of encouragement. Sorry to be blunt, but I was lucky I latched onto my mentor John Digweed, who after a few f's and preverbial slaps got me moving in the right direction. Even at Saturdays midlands main show he gave me a couple of b*******'s and quite rightly so. You will have them too. Competative showing in the dahlia world has it's high and low's, many walk away those who stay enjoy growing these fab flowers and meet great friends in the process. What more could you want ? |
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Post by Tel on Aug 25, 2014 9:45:25 GMT
I've not grown the varieties you've listed. Without covers, the smalls do better in the rain. Plus, with smalls and miniatures you get more blooms per plant. The ones in the winners enclosure are there for a reason.....they look good if you can grow them well, and not everyone can. Check out Halls of Heddon and Station House sites, have a look through the pictures. They list ones that can grow well in the rain. Totally agree with scrumpy, what looks in a novices eyes good in the garden wont have a hope in hell on the showbench, border dahlias except selective star and collerettes are ones for the local shows and then and only then if the entries are crap. Aim high, be selective, join a specialist society. Most of all obtain good stock. Forum member 'Ian' didn't win two National indervidual championships from tubers bought at wilko's. Showing is a reality check, in five years time you will look back at your old bed of in your eyes prize winning dahlias and think what on earth did I grow them for. Only grow what you can look after, 50 well grown dahlias with the time put in will always beat 200 that have been neglected. Every 100 plants grown equates to an hour a day every day, not when you feel like it. I work on mine 3 hrs a day Monday - Friday. Then 10 hrs on Saturday and a further 10 hrs on Sunday, much more during show season. Hens the reason my wife Marie packed her bags and buggered off in May and I didn't notice she had gone till the end of June. No, seriously she didn't and being a dahlia widdow isn't for all good wife's, husbands, G'friends or like. I'm lucky she moans a lot but she is the first to give me hug if I do well or if I'm down and need a bit of encouragement. Sorry to be blunt, but I was lucky I latched onto my mentor John Digweed, who after a few f's and preverbial slaps got me moving in the right direction. Even at Saturdays midlands main show he gave me a couple of b*******'s and quite rightly so. You will have them too. Competative showing in the dahlia world has it's high and low's, many walk away those who stay enjoy growing these fab flowers and meet great friends in the process. What more could you want ?
You can make great friends in the dahlia world. even on here we all encourage each other. from the novice, middle of the road like myself or national champions. we do not want anybody to get dis heartened in growing our favourite flowers. We need more young people to take up this hobby of ours. |
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Post by sweetpea on Aug 25, 2014 11:08:38 GMT
Totally agree with scrumpy, what looks in a novices eyes good in the garden wont have a hope in hell on the showbench, border dahlias except selective star and collerettes are ones for the local shows and then and only then if the entries are crap. Aim high, be selective, join a specialist society. Most of all obtain good stock. Forum member 'Ian' didn't win two National indervidual championships from tubers bought at wilko's. Showing is a reality check, in five years time you will look back at your old bed of in your eyes prize winning dahlias and think what on earth did I grow them for. Only grow what you can look after, 50 well grown dahlias with the time put in will always beat 200 that have been neglected. Every 100 plants grown equates to an hour a day every day, not when you feel like it. I work on mine 3 hrs a day Monday - Friday. Then 10 hrs on Saturday and a further 10 hrs on Sunday, much more during show season. Hens the reason my wife Marie packed her bags and buggered off in May and I didn't notice she had gone till the end of June. No, seriously she didn't and being a dahlia widdow isn't for all good wife's, husbands, G'friends or like. I'm lucky she moans a lot but she is the first to give me hug if I do well or if I'm down and need a bit of encouragement. Sorry to be blunt, but I was lucky I latched onto my mentor John Digweed, who after a few f's and preverbial slaps got me moving in the right direction. Even at Saturdays midlands main show he gave me a couple of b*******'s and quite rightly so. You will have them too. Competative showing in the dahlia world has it's high and low's, many walk away those who stay enjoy growing these fab flowers and meet great friends in the process. What more could you want ?
You can make great friends in the dahlia world. even on here we all encourage each other. from the novice, middle of the road like myself or national champions. we do not want anybody to get dis heartened in growing our favourite flowers. We need more young people to take up this hobby of ours. Reckon that lets me out then Tel  On the plus side I used to be a young person. |
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Post by Tel on Aug 25, 2014 12:42:09 GMT
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On the plus side I used to be a young person. 
