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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 14:51:28 GMT
 
Hamari Gold, giant decorative. Cutting supplied by Ryecroft Dahlias. Fabula, collerette. Tuber supplied by Riverside Bulbs |
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Post by Tel on Jul 24, 2014 6:58:10 GMT
In my biased opinion, I think Garden Friends is as good has Teesbrooke Redeye that wins on the show bench.  free image host |
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Post by Cherry on Jul 24, 2014 8:18:11 GMT
Better! Unbiased and inexperienced in dahlias, but I can see obvious points in favour of Garden Friends.
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 24, 2014 9:49:34 GMT
Totally.
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Post by Sean on Jul 24, 2014 20:58:10 GMT
In my biased opinion, I think Garden Friends is as good has Teesbrooke Redeye that wins on the show bench. free image hostI think the larger redeye bloom the messier it gets. Your seedling is nice but I think the coller is slightly to long and would say hootenanny is slightly better. |
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Post by dahliaperson on Jul 25, 2014 5:42:20 GMT
Never mind Tel, it would still be a lovely dahlia for the garden.
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Post by Moonlight on Jul 25, 2014 9:25:06 GMT
I like the yellow ring around the middle, I think that that looks more defined than the 2 lilac ones but it is like all things, each to their own. 
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Post by scrumpy on Aug 1, 2014 8:21:14 GMT
 Clearview Louise. The public will like this one. That one is hitting the ring. |
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Post by ian on Aug 1, 2014 9:18:53 GMT
The problem with Louise it will be a problem matching up with the tips being coloured (or could be the feed) but more of a fault is the tips of the flower petals there is a slight fimbriation to the petals probably due to the hot weather. Although the splitting will not go away until it cools a little. I would water them more which may help. It is also probably a bloom that when cut will improve in water an benefit from being cut 36 hours before showing.
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Post by scrumpy on Aug 1, 2014 9:49:16 GMT
Like I said, the public will like it Didn't I read somewhere that Judges have to make allowances for "matching" tips on blooms such as these and not classify it as a fault? I'm waiting for the 2nd flush on this one, and to grow it off a wing bud. Have got another one developing now that looks better form than the one shown. The actual plant is very sturdy, and stems are incredible on it, and I reckon it would probably be best grown for later shows at least 8 up, as on this years showing it looks a late flowering variety. Not much use to me as my shows are early, but as I say, could be a cracking 2nd flush. |
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Post by Moonlight on Aug 1, 2014 17:14:38 GMT
Like I said, the public will like it Didn't I read somewhere that Judges have to make allowances for "matching" tips on blooms such as these and not classify it as a fault?I'm waiting for the 2nd flush on this one, and to grow it off a wing bud. Have got another one developing now that looks better form than the one shown. The actual plant is very sturdy, and stems are incredible on it, and I reckon it would probably be best grown for later shows at least 8 up, as on this years showing it looks a late flowering variety. Not much use to me as my shows are early, but as I say, could be a cracking 2nd flush.
Speaking as someone who doesn't know anything about the rules or have no knowledge or experience to call upon, why do judges have to make allowances for blooms such as these?
What characteristics do they have that mean that allowances need to made when other varieties are not allowed to?
As I've said before, I don't know enough to see beyond - why isn't there level playing fields for all varieties with their classes? |
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Post by ian on Aug 1, 2014 17:21:41 GMT
If the tips of the flowers are even then they are ok flowers should not have a colour variation if the do from one bloom to another then they will indeed lose marks. Hope this helps
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Post by scrumpy on Aug 1, 2014 17:47:31 GMT
OK, reading the judging rules 31st edition, 2012.
Faults of a lesser degree
g. uneven or inconsistent colouring, but this does not apply to bi-coloured or variegated blooms.
Surely that would apply to the tips of the above so they wouldn't lose marks?
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Post by ian on Aug 1, 2014 17:59:28 GMT
Yes that is right so therefore if it is evenly tipped then you are ok (it is not a bicolored dahlia)
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Post by Moonlight on Aug 1, 2014 18:32:11 GMT
Yes that is right so therefore if it is evenly tipped then you are ok ( it is not a bicolored dahlia) |
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