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Post by Tel on Apr 6, 2015 5:42:33 GMT
Try spraying them with aired water, keep out of sun. Tel what is aired water please? Tepid, luke warm, just the chill taken off so not to shock the cuttings in a warm environment.
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Post by Tel on Apr 6, 2015 5:49:49 GMT
Final one for tonight - please could someone remind me how to upload pictures now the forum has reached limit. I was told by someone on here but didnt know how to work the app but would like to share pictures so must try again! (normally post from tablet device) Thank you, and, good night Down at the bottom of the forum, there is a section called How Too. In there is posts on How to upload pics using Tinypic and Photobucket. I use Tinypic and this one Postimage.org
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Post by Cat on Apr 6, 2015 7:33:22 GMT
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Post by Lou78W on Apr 6, 2015 7:50:00 GMT
Things not going well. Totally fed up. Binned another 36 cuttings today all rotten . The soil does not drain I think it's this wetting agent they add now It's 50 per cent Sinclair potting compost peat based with the other 50percent sharp sand and Perlite. I water it leave it to drain for 24 hours and still a disaster. I don't mist unless some Flagging And just lightly. What is most upsetting was this last failure was my main batch of ryecroft zoe , Ac Abby and Mary's jomanda with some senzoe Ursula wnd winholm Diane. Changing again tomorrow to seed and cutting compost and some in sand. At this rate I will have nothing to put into the ground. Tubers still throwing well although zoe is slowing down . Moved set up into summer house. That titan tray I could barely lift ! Must be a good 100 kilos now. Only good thing @tels plants are doing well and the last batch of hillcrest candy is looking better. They are not in this mix. Had some coir and tried it. Just moist no more than that. Only one damped off as the others but the other 7 look ok. I will see if halls still taking orders. I do not trust myself anymore . Total mess. Aw Raymond.....that's a rotten shame!!. I never use mcp to strike cuttings....seed and cuttings compost is the way to go, as you are going to do...you should have better luck....fingers crossed xx Hope you have some luck with Halls
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Post by Tel on Apr 6, 2015 8:46:34 GMT
Tel..... the first of my pom pom seedlings have started to appear, so I will be checking in for guidance, if I may? You will get get good guidance from Tel dianthus, just sometimes up the garden path. Sorry Tel, couldn't resist. Btw garden friends doing fine in 3" pots for now. I been up and down there a few times sweetpea. cannot remember if I am up or down now though.
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Post by Raymond on Apr 6, 2015 9:24:07 GMT
Just a total annoyance. Thanks your the good wishes Cat Lou78W dianthus . Just not my lucky year. Chin up keep going let's see what happens. Off to gc to buy some bits. Well I have 4 winholm Diane rooted and one Ac Abby and tels plants that should give me best in show beating Dave Spencer and his 1000 ! hahahaha
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Post by Tel on Apr 6, 2015 10:30:16 GMT
Just a total annoyance. Thanks your the good wishes Cat Lou78W dianthus . Just not my lucky year. Chin up keep going let's see what happens. Off to gc to buy some bits. Well I have 4 winholm Diane rooted and one Ac Abby and tels plants that should give me best in show beating Dave Spencer and his 1000 ! hahahaha [/font] You never know Raymond, if I can win a bronze medal at Harrogate for 3 Alf Ramsey when I only had the 3 blooms out, you can do the same.
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Post by cici on Apr 6, 2015 13:33:45 GMT
So sorry to hear of your struggles, Raymond. I remember losing a whole batch last year of newly released traded unrooted cuttings, and it still makes me sick to think of all the black ends traveling up and infecting the whole sprout. I used peat-based potting mix, and I'm sure something was contaminated.
I've always had good luck rooting cuttings in straight vermiculite in a sterile pot, covered with plastic for the first ten days. No watering, heating, rooting compound or misting needed, and it keeps any pathogens from wandering over... As long as I keep my hands off and let them do their own thing.
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Post by Lou78W on Apr 6, 2015 15:03:33 GMT
So sorry to hear of your struggles, Raymond. I remember losing a whole batch last year of newly released traded unrooted cuttings, and it still makes me sick to think of all the black ends traveling up and infecting the whole sprout. I used peat-based potting mix, and I'm sure something was contaminated. I've always had good luck rooting cuttings in straight vermiculite in a sterile pot, covered with plastic for the first ten days. No watering, heating, rooting compound or misting needed, and it keeps any pathogens from wandering over... As long as I keep my hands off and let them do their own thing. That's interesting Cici...you don't even moisten the vermiculite initially?.....just take the cutting and plop it in?.......must give that one a try....I still have some cuttings to take.....
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Post by cici on Apr 6, 2015 16:21:44 GMT
Oh, goodness, no! Sorry, I make sure the vermiculite is quite moist after the cutting is in the pot. But I don't bother draining out the excess, as sometimes I use small yogurt containers without holes due to laziness. The cuttings do just fine with a bit of water at its base, I've found. The golden rule is to keep pathogens from getting access to the cutting before it can put down roots. Nice thing about vermiculite is that it is basically clay popcorn that holds water, and is sterile straight out of the bag. Bacteria doesn't grow on clay, so using vermiculite as a rooting medium helps reduce one of the many things that can go wrong. I've used wet floral foam and Oasis foam with the bottom half inch stuck in water with good success, but then I have to try to take off the foam before transplanting, or the foam can rot the stalk. I don't bother with that method anymore, although it is cool to watch the roots grow over and through the foam. I've read about a grower swearing by just sticking a cutting directly into water, but my one attempt at that with a spare cutting resulted in slime. I think the cup wasn't sterile, so I'm sure it was my fault. Still, I feel better using a medium that the developing roots can choose to go into more or less water, so I don't have to babysit with watering until it's rooted. Every time you fuss with cuttings, it's one more chance to invite pathogens to take over.
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Post by scrumpy on Apr 6, 2015 16:26:55 GMT
Just a total annoyance. Thanks your the good wishes Cat Lou78W dianthus . Just not my lucky year. Chin up keep going let's see what happens. Off to gc to buy some bits. Well I have 4 winholm Diane rooted and one Ac Abby and tels plants that should give me best in show beating Dave Spencer and his 1000 ! hahahaha Don't panic. No idea why you are still having problems. Don't think your problem is lack of air circulation. My cuttings never get any air around them. I've been away for 3 days, temperature in the greenhouse has been up to 40'c, cuttings just left in their trays covered with lids with a quick spray Thursday evening. Just had a look at them, none have wilted, plenty have rooted. Cuttings rooted in both pots and celltrays. I'll post a picture later.
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Post by dianthus on Apr 6, 2015 17:24:12 GMT
So sorry to hear of your struggles, Raymond. I remember losing a whole batch last year of newly released traded unrooted cuttings, and it still makes me sick to think of all the black ends traveling up and infecting the whole sprout. I used peat-based potting mix, and I'm sure something was contaminated. I've always had good luck rooting cuttings in straight vermiculite in a sterile pot, covered with plastic for the first ten days. No watering, heating, rooting compound or misting needed, and it keeps any pathogens from wandering over... As long as I keep my hands off and let them do their own thing. Vermiculite is treated mica, rather than clay, cici. It is a mineral found in Igneous and Metamorphic rocks. It's the see through element in a paraffin lamp, as glass would shatter.
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Post by Lou78W on Apr 6, 2015 19:22:32 GMT
Oh, goodness, no! Sorry, I make sure the vermiculite is quite moist after the cutting is in the pot. But I don't bother draining out the excess, as sometimes I use small yogurt containers without holes due to laziness. The cuttings do just fine with a bit of water at its base, I've found. The golden rule is to keep pathogens from getting access to the cutting before it can put down roots. Nice thing about vermiculite is that it is basically clay popcorn that holds water, and is sterile straight out of the bag. Bacteria doesn't grow on clay, so using vermiculite as a rooting medium helps reduce one of the many things that can go wrong. I've used wet floral foam and Oasis foam with the bottom half inch stuck in water with good success, but then I have to try to take off the foam before transplanting, or the foam can rot the stalk. I don't bother with that method anymore, although it is cool to watch the roots grow over and through the foam. I've read about a grower swearing by just sticking a cutting directly into water, but my one attempt at that with a spare cutting resulted in slime. I think the cup wasn't sterile, so I'm sure it was my fault. Still, I feel better using a medium that the developing roots can choose to go into more or less water, so I don't have to babysit with watering until it's rooted. Every time you fuss with cuttings, it's one more chance to invite pathogens to take over. Thanks for the clarification!!....
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Post by cici on Apr 6, 2015 20:06:32 GMT
Vermiculite is treated mica, rather than clay, cici. It is a mineral found in Igneous and Metamorphic rocks. It's the see through element in a paraffin lamp, as glass would shatter. Thank you for the correction. The process and history of vermiculite was truly fascinating when I had researched it in depth a year ago, but I had not known about that particular use for it. I was just trying to make the point that it is an absorbent and sterile medium that comes from the earth, not biodegradable plants, so it resists bacterial growth.
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Post by dianthus on Apr 6, 2015 22:15:55 GMT
Oops, sorry cici.
Just read my post back, and I came over all pedantic. It was just that I did geology at college, and I didn't want @raymond to get more upset. Clays tend to be alkaline in nature, whereas micas, hence vermiculite, are associated more with acidic rocks, such as granite.
I cover several of my seeds with vermiculite, and find it very useful
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