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Post by dianthus on Apr 26, 2015 13:47:58 GMT
ian with the potassium of nitrate how much per plant ? And how long after planting do you apply ? Just the one treatment? I have the chempak soluble high nitrogen in stock. Just to remind you that potassium nitrate is explosive, and if used as a dry dressing you have to be very careful, otherwise you may blow your plants up. Just had a 'lightbulb' moment.... now I know why they used to talk about fertiliser bombs on the news. Doh!  |
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 14:11:03 GMT
Raymond I make up a feed with Urea and Potasium Nitrate it is an old feed dare I say it some Chrysanthemum growers use it. It is fed in a very diluted form. But if you are happy to buy Chempak and can afford it, you cannot get much better than that. Although I favour Vitax feeds.
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 14:12:09 GMT
That is right Dianthus.
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Post by Tel on Apr 26, 2015 17:21:44 GMT
ian with the potassium of nitrate how much per plant ? And how long after planting do you apply ? Just the one treatment? I have the chempak soluble high nitrogen in stock. Just to remind you that potassium nitrate is explosive, and if used as a dry dressing you have to be very careful, otherwise you may blow your plants up. I can just imagine Raymond,s face, never mind the language, if he blew his cuttings up..   |
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Post by dianthus on Apr 26, 2015 17:27:08 GMT
Just to remind you that potassium nitrate is explosive, and if used as a dry dressing you have to be very careful, otherwise you may blow your plants up. I can just imagine Raymond,s face, never mind the language, if he blew his cuttings up.. After all his trials and tribulations, Tel , it definitely would not be the icing on his cake 
PS All the best analogies relate to food, in my humble pie opinion 
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 17:57:35 GMT
That is so so funny yes just imagine Poor Raymond standing there with a black face hair stuck up cartoon style muttering blo@&dy Dahlias I am going back to growing veg.
Raymond please take this they way it is intended.
Good luck Raymond
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Post by Cat on Apr 26, 2015 18:04:28 GMT
I must admit I had visions of explosions at Raymond's you lot do have an amusing sense of humour lol
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Post by Raymond on Apr 26, 2015 18:15:16 GMT
Just to remind you that potassium nitrate is explosive, and if used as a dry dressing you have to be very careful, otherwise you may blow your plants up. I can just imagine Raymond,s face, never mind the language, if he blew his cuttings up.. Tel the face would be laughing after the total shock to be honest ! can you imagine a picture of that in flowers and foliage ! Hahaha I would though in typical glaswegian style be stringing together every sware and curse word known in the English language and some others I know ! Trust me on that Hehehe ! Sorry to here the news on your friend. Lost two good friends in the last year both to cancer as well as family in the last few years. Keep your chin up mate. |
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Post by Raymond on Apr 26, 2015 18:22:55 GMT
That is so so funny yes just imagine Poor Raymond standing there with a black face hair stuck up cartoon style muttering blo@&dy Dahlias I am going back to growing veg. Raymond please take this they way it is intended. Good luck Raymond It is all in good fun Ian. With my luck it would happen ! Would probably make the local press. Amateur gardener takes out entire row of gardens through fertilizer bomb ! Anti terror squad sent to investigate for crimes to dahlias and general horticulture . Hahaha I am using vitax q4 as base dressing Ian. I got the chempak in I can use that on other stuff did not buy much only a box as I do not want to over feed. I can order in the vitax high nitrogen. That's if nitrogen feed is that important or just go balanced until potash ? Only growing just over a hundred plants cutting lots out. Stupid purchases now going to friends and plant sale. |
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 20:11:21 GMT
Raymond I think 100 plants is enough to do some damage. I think I have said before to you after your base dressing (I use Q4 and Nitro chalk) nitro chalk is a very fast acting nitrogen for early on then the Q4 or FBB is slower release. Then I do not extra feed for the first month, then I feed two - three Hight Nitrogen feeds. All feed is applied by watering can I get to see each plant that way. I don't give a balanced feed I go straight onto high potash from bud stage again two - three feeds. One or two varieties I use an extra addition of sulphate of potash (moonlights)
I do folia feed with seaweed extract and comfrey. I do not feed miniature decs and I do not feed my kiwis any potash. I add Epsom Salts to the feed two teaspoons per 2gal watering can 8 plants per fill, at bud stage for colour.
I think the thing with Kiwis is lots of water and that is true of all Dahlias.
Happy growing Raymond
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Post by Raymond on Apr 26, 2015 20:22:23 GMT
Thank you ian I will note all this down.I will order the nitro chalk. Hope that is not explosive ! Hahaha I won't be doing any kiwis this year. Pink suffusion as being small for a sml Dec does it need a bit of extra feed ? Let's see what happens. layout has changed dramatically . Lots of culls I may drop winholm Diane and do another min Dec. Still debating that one. All the best |
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 20:51:30 GMT
Pink suffusion is a beautiful little thing (unfortunetely it is small) the last time I grew it I put two plants in a planting hole and grew it as one plant growing 6-8 single plants are best grown no more than 4 up To get a descent size for showing now this variety will benefit from from the addition of Epsom Salts the colour is super Q4 will also help with the colour.
Persivere with Winholme Raymond it will be worth it you see grown 6-7 up
What miniature decs have you got?
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Post by Raymond on Apr 26, 2015 21:07:21 GMT
I have dikara superb coming ian I can get marston George and whatever is in Kent I can ask around. They have been very supportive I might be getting Andrew aspitals seedling. Won't know until saturday though as he is pushing for numbers. |
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Post by Cat on Apr 26, 2015 21:30:05 GMT
I have had one or two pupils on here. On it tonight thank you Cherry / Tel  Thanks Cherry , have read 30 pages, not all pictures showed which was a little disappointing (probably my device) but what I did see/read was very helpful |
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Post by ian on Apr 26, 2015 21:52:07 GMT
Raymond, Dikara Superb does quite a bit of winning, it can be a little coarse and streaky however I think it is better than the seedling you mentioned. George Marston is very very good but you need to cut it with a large centre as they do keep on developing when cut, so to stand any chance of a decent centre cut them big centred.
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