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Post by Raymond on Apr 28, 2015 23:49:32 GMT
@davidv hi from me . First year trying to grow from cuttings and to be honest made every mistake in the book. Had some great tips on here trying to put into practise .
I found to much moisture , not enough moisture then not enough heat then to much heat, not enough air flow leaving to much leaf on etc.....
I have tried 6 different mediums and in all honesty I think coir is the best not in pellets but loose. It holds the moisture well and not really any need to mist. Just make sure is it not soggy just nice and moist. Coir in the pellets far to wet, Sand they got fried, multipurpose and sand they have flagged, multipurpose Perlite and sand is better for me and multipurpose and Perlite been ok. also tried potting compost Perlite and sand.
I am keeping my temp now at 16degrees.
With the lids the ones in sand got fried with the lid off and no bottom heat with newspaper over them . If using sand needs more moisture.I now leave lid on vents fully open in the day and part closed at night. Cover the youngest cuttings now if strong Sun the older ones get more light To help root.
I tried cold rooting but was taking an age and by the time they rooted the growing tips went black.
I am now buying it all in on Saturday at plant sale if these root Great for extras. I have one or two more batches of cuttings to take and that's me done if they root great if they don't also cool.
All the best and good luck with the veg and the dahlias.
Ps I potted up some old tubers and boom in three to 4 weeks some with 4 inch shoots in cold plastic greenhouse . Easy ! Wish the cuttings where ! hehe
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 12:25:55 GMT
Interesting, I tried the suggested (by most Dahlia books) 50/50 peat/sharp sand, it seems quite heavy and moisture holding. You've done some experimenting I see with mixes )and coir seems to work for you. My last mix was 3 parts peaty fine compost (B+Q Verve) with 1 part mixed sand/vermiculite. Ventilation seems to be crucial it seems so will stick my next batch in the propagator, no lid, heat on. Trying to get them started a bit quicker than my cold rooting without damping off. Phil Damp emphasises good contact between compost and cutting so firm planting is my aim too. Been given a tuber of 'Mark Hardwick' sprouting like mad now, thick shoots too. Apparently it's a giant s.cact so really want to get a few going. It gives me another option (category) I could enter. Will probably buy some rooted cuttings too, If mine go totally pear shaped I'll have something to show! Thanks for the input Raymond.  |
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Post by scrumpy on Apr 29, 2015 12:30:24 GMT
Mark Hardwick is a giant dec.
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Post by dianthus on Apr 29, 2015 12:39:53 GMT
It's the number of flower bearing stems you allow to develop... A 'small' might be grown 8 up for example. If you let all the stems develop the blooms might be smaller than desired for the category. Best I can explain dianthus! Does that mean every plant could have 6 - 8 canes around it, to support every stem? Goodness, I thought my runner beans were greedy, wanting so many 8ft canes, to make the framework to grow 80 plants!!
Good thing, my first attempt is growing pompon seedlings, then, isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 12:40:41 GMT
Cheers Scrumpy, just google imaged it, that's even better!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 12:46:47 GMT
Dianthus, I just have the classic 3 canes around each plant with string around them! |
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Post by Lou78W on Apr 29, 2015 13:46:11 GMT
It's the number of flower bearing stems you allow to develop... A 'small' might be grown 8 up for example. If you let all the stems develop the blooms might be smaller than desired for the category. Best I can explain dianthus! Does that mean every plant could have 6 - 8 canes around it, to support every stem? Goodness, I thought my runner beans were greedy, wanting so many 8ft canes, to make the framework to grow 80 plants!!
Good thing, my first attempt is growing pompon seedlings, then, isn't it?
Potentially, depending on the variety  I usually have 4 canes in place when I plant out to support a framework of string; you can of course take one away, or add one if you feel the need, or if a plant decides it wants to be a triffid  |
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Post by dianthus on Apr 29, 2015 16:34:44 GMT
anyone..... errr, Tel , got a photo of what this should look like, please?  |
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Post by Raymond on Apr 29, 2015 18:29:52 GMT
dianthus go in to YouTube and look at Dave gillams videos you can see the three canes . Looks like an inverted cone. The four canes that Lou78W does also great as some varieties fire loads up. One central cane three around in the inverted cone again you want space at the top for the blooms string/twine between to make like a net for support every 12 to 18 inches I was told. Just make sure your canes are strong. Central cane in when you plant out If three or four. caning and tying in one of my biggest failures last year. Won't make that mistake again.
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Post by Raymond on Apr 29, 2015 22:35:08 GMT
My first halls order arrived lovely plants I have to say With a lovely bonus of a trelyn Seren ! Allan snowfire is a whopper ! Thank you dahliadave Slightly smaller than station house but lovely colour and habit. You where spot on Lou78W In seeing all three halls, station house and ndc. Halls and station house pretty close with halls taking it. ndc I think 3 plants are virused Called dame deirdrie will see how they grow. Don't look healthy bad colour weak looking and a discoloration pattern in the leaves. Mmmm let's see. |
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Post by Lou78W on Apr 30, 2015 6:43:35 GMT
My first halls order arrived lovely plants I have to say With a lovely bonus of a trelyn Seren ! Allan snowfire is a whopper ! Thank you dahliadave Slightly smaller than station house but lovely colour and habit. You where spot on Lou78W In seeing all three halls, station house and ndc. Halls and station house pretty close with halls taking it. ndc I think 3 plants are virused Called dame deirdrie will see how they grow. Don't look healthy bad colour weak looking and a discoloration pattern in the leaves. Mmmm let's see. I wouldn't take a chance with the ones you think might be virused....could wipe out ALL your plants.....bin em quick !! |
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Post by Raymond on Apr 30, 2015 13:57:10 GMT
Lou78W Tel ian scrumpy you think this is virused ? Just looks wrong. Ndc charity dahlia bred by Ken stock called dame deirdrie.  
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Post by scrumpy on Apr 30, 2015 16:26:00 GMT
spider mite.
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Post by Raymond on Apr 30, 2015 17:51:42 GMT
scrumpy just a bad a virus then. I have given them a thorough spray and all the other young plants. Will take this to Kent on Saturday and show some members and ask its hard to photograph. If they concur spider mites or virus will be calling ndc and complaining. Its the charity one as well ! Lots would have bought this.
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Post by Tel on Apr 30, 2015 19:00:55 GMT
I don't think it is suffering from a virus, but nothing wrong with a close up inspection, when you go on Sat. Now it is in different growing conditions and spider mite like dry conditions, you can change that and see what the new growth looks like. |
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I usually have 4 canes in place when I plant out to support a framework of string; you can of course take one away, or add one if you feel the need, or if a plant decides it wants to be a triffid 
