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Post by daitheplant on Jan 6, 2015 20:41:11 GMT
As Cherry says Roofy, putting the diverter in will make a huge difference.
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Post by roofgardener on Jan 7, 2015 7:35:02 GMT
I hope so Daithplant. That and a dab of sealant. Well, we shall see in a couple of weeks.
As for ventilation.. well.. the window arrangement looks identical to yours, with three on each side.
Sadly, the PT only just fits into position, with walls on 3 sides. (and a 20' drop on the other side of the walls.)
I MIGHT be able to reach the first air vent/window thing nearest the door (on either side), but for ventilation I would really be wanting to open the FAR vent. (nearest the back). There is no easy way of reaching them.
Even if I used the Big Ladders and climbed up from ground level, I then have the problem of leaning over the wall and reaching DOWN 3' to open the window.
I might look into cutting away the interior mesh screen. I should then be able to open them from the inside. I'd need to then sew velcro strips onto the inside so I can re-hang the mesh screen. Hmmm......
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Post by daitheplant on Jan 7, 2015 20:13:03 GMT
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 8, 2015 8:20:48 GMT
I hope so Daithplant. That and a dab of sealant. Well, we shall see in a couple of weeks. As for ventilation.. well.. the window arrangement looks identical to yours, with three on each side. Sadly, the PT only just fits into position, with walls on 3 sides. (and a 20' drop on the other side of the walls.) I MIGHT be able to reach the first air vent/window thing nearest the door (on either side), but for ventilation I would really be wanting to open the FAR vent. (nearest the back). There is no easy way of reaching them. Even if I used the Big Ladders and climbed up from ground level, I then have the problem of leaning over the wall and reaching DOWN 3' to open the window. I might look into cutting away the interior mesh screen. I should then be able to open them from the inside. I'd need to then sew velcro strips onto the inside so I can re-hang the mesh screen. Hmmm...... |
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Post by roofgardener on Jan 9, 2015 19:50:06 GMT
I bought some sealant, and the "sealant gun" thingy from B+Q on the way home tonight. I got in , washed up, and went out to see how the condensation was going. It was windy... things where being blown around. The superglue had worked. The cover had not blown off the polytunnel. Instead, the entire front of the PT was "rearing up" at 20 degrees. As I looked in puzzlement, there was a REAL gust, and it reared up to 60 degrees. I just grabbed it in time. I couldn't lower it. All the standing and shelves had been knocked over. All my seed trays where scattered everywhere, along with plant food, seed boxes.. everything. The shelves where distorted, and they had gotten underneath the rim of the PT and jammed it so it couldn't come back down again. The wind kept forcing the PT back up and down, creating a "chewing" motion on the jammed shelving. To cut a long story short.... I threw everything out of the polytunnel so that I could at least drag it back down to ground level without things jamming it. I've piled (full) plantpots against the front rim, and put a heavy stepladder across the roof. Maybe... maybe it will survive the night. But all my shelving is piled up on the roofgarden at the mercy of the wind. I've got nowhere to put it, and no light to work in. It's already damaged. Gawd knows what state it will be in come dawns early light. Thats assuming it doesn't all just blow away. I might be happier if it all does. I've lost most of my seed trays, all of my seed stock, and lots of other bits and bobs. I'm going to bed.  There will be NO supper ! |
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Post by Cherry on Jan 9, 2015 20:20:43 GMT
My son did a beautiful job of decorating his room, even to the point of new carpet and just when he had finished, we had an earthquake, felt all the way to Steve's and beyond, and a crack appeared in the ceiling. We had one in the sitting room too. Your story reminds me of this. Don't weep! Others have lost even more in this storm.
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Post by daitheplant on Jan 9, 2015 20:44:59 GMT
I bought some sealant, and the "sealant gun" thingy from B+Q on the way home tonight. I got in , washed up, and went out to see how the condensation was going. It was windy... things where being blown around. The superglue had worked. The cover had not blown off the polytunnel. Instead, the entire front of the PT was "rearing up" at 20 degrees. As I looked in puzzlement, there was a REAL gust, and it reared up to 60 degrees. I just grabbed it in time. I couldn't lower it. All the standing and shelves had been knocked over. All my seed trays where scattered everywhere, along with plant food, seed boxes.. everything. The shelves where distorted, and they had gotten underneath the rim of the PT and jammed it so it couldn't come back down again. The wind kept forcing the PT back up and down, creating a "chewing" motion on the jammed shelving. To cut a long story short.... I threw everything out of the polytunnel so that I could at least drag it back down to ground level without things jamming it. I've piled (full) plantpots against the front rim, and put a heavy stepladder across the roof. Maybe... maybe it will survive the night. But all my shelving is piled up on the roofgarden at the mercy of the wind. I've got nowhere to put it, and no light to work in. It's already damaged. Gawd knows what state it will be in come dawns early light. Thats assuming it doesn't all just blow away. I might be happier if it all does. I've lost most of my seed trays, all of my seed stock, and lots of other bits and bobs. I'm going to bed. There will be NO supper ! Roofy, I have no idea what state my tunnel is in and I am dreading going up there tomorrow. All I do know is I will repair it, if damaged, and carry on using it when repaired. |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 9, 2015 21:06:40 GMT
I bought some sealant, and the "sealant gun" thingy from B+Q on the way home tonight. I got in , washed up, and went out to see how the condensation was going. It was windy... things where being blown around. The superglue had worked. The cover had not blown off the polytunnel. Instead, the entire front of the PT was "rearing up" at 20 degrees. As I looked in puzzlement, there was a REAL gust, and it reared up to 60 degrees. I just grabbed it in time. I couldn't lower it. All the standing and shelves had been knocked over. All my seed trays where scattered everywhere, along with plant food, seed boxes.. everything. The shelves where distorted, and they had gotten underneath the rim of the PT and jammed it so it couldn't come back down again. The wind kept forcing the PT back up and down, creating a "chewing" motion on the jammed shelving. To cut a long story short.... I threw everything out of the polytunnel so that I could at least drag it back down to ground level without things jamming it. I've piled (full) plantpots against the front rim, and put a heavy stepladder across the roof. Maybe... maybe it will survive the night. But all my shelving is piled up on the roofgarden at the mercy of the wind. I've got nowhere to put it, and no light to work in. It's already damaged. Gawd knows what state it will be in come dawns early light. Thats assuming it doesn't all just blow away. I might be happier if it all does. I've lost most of my seed trays, all of my seed stock, and lots of other bits and bobs. I'm going to bed. There will be NO supper ! Roofy, I have no idea what state my tunnel is in and I am dreading going up there tomorrow. All I do know is I will repair it, if damaged, and carry on using it when repaired.  |
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Post by Moonlight on Jan 9, 2015 21:58:48 GMT
Roofy you have every right to feel totally hacked off with everything you've put into your garden. I really feel for you. In the morning now matter how depressing, frustrating and totally justifiable 'It's not fair because I was trying so hard, really felt like I was getting somewhere... sooner or later, you'll pick up those bits of the poly tunnel - grit your teeth (and probably look very, very scary) and begin your fight back.
After all don't let the buggers get you down!
I can't remember where I was posting and basically, it was pointed out that as upset as I was feeling, in the big wide world there are people that are a lot worse than me and I felt really guilty for feeling the way that I did.
Just look at the 1st page of Geranium's diary and see the Summer, Autumn and Winter season photos. I'm sharing this not to make you feel bad for feeling the way you do but because I want you to see the 'Bring it on' Garden Friends Fighter Fight Backers, we can be a very determined opponents. Geranium's garden is stunning. It was stunning before the flood and although it took a long time in the fight back, it is stunning.
Roofy you have a lot of passion, enthusiasm mixed with an almighty dollop of wicked sense of humour.
The elements have thrown down the gauntlet - roll up your sleeves put on your gardening boxing gloves  and Bring It on the Fight Back.
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Post by ladybird on Jan 10, 2015 5:13:50 GMT
sorry to hear about your poly tunnel roofgardener my thought are with you . I have lost panels of my greenhouse in the past . we have had a lot of winds here as well i just don`t look out at my polycarbonate greenhouse till its over , so far so good
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Post by grindle on Jan 10, 2015 5:45:01 GMT
that's a shame about your polytunnel roofy, I think we've all been there at one time or another, but we overcome it eventually Ladybird I remember all those panels being blown out of your greenhouse  |
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Post by roofgardener on Jan 10, 2015 9:21:48 GMT
Thanks for all your thoughts and support  The PT is still in place: the ladder trick worked. Here be carnage .....  The quad-ladder anchor.  Moonlight - I looked at the diary as you suggested, and it helped. At least I don't have to worry about flooding  Daitheplant - fingers crossed for your polytunnel. One thing... despite all of the "chewing" action (with all the stress that implies on the frame), and all the abrasion against the surrounding walls, neither the frame or the fabric appears damaged. These darned things are TOUGH. Flighty, perhaps, but tough ! (I'm pretty sure the one you've got is the same make as mine... but just a couple of levels bigger). You're on soil, so you've always got the option of using hook-anchors or Delta Anchors to clamp your PT to the ground. (dunno wether I'm using the correct term there... sort of 'heavy duty' serrated tent-pegs with either a hook or restraining-arm at one end that goes around/over the base-poles ? ) I think I'm going to have to go back to square one, and think this PT out again. Remove the remaining furniture and take it back to a bare PT. Apart from anything else, this will make sealing three of the sides FAR easier. I can then start to think about how to anchor the beast down. I don't have the morale to sort out The Carnage, so I'm going to pop up to my Sisters for a Tool Maintenance morning. (mostly trying to work out how to remove the Flymo and Hedge Trimmer blades for sharpening). She made a good point; the only damage done was some outdated seeds, brick-a-brack, and some shelving. What would have happened if the storms had struck in April, with all my seed trays full of plants ? I could have lost my entire 2015 crop !!!! Now THAT would have been a catastrophe. Egads... as I write this, the sun has just come out ! |
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Post by roofgardener on Jan 10, 2015 9:36:54 GMT
***Update****
After considerable thought, I have decided to cease being a Roofgardener, in light of the difficulties that strong winds cause.
Instead, I'm going to be a LairGardener.
I am going to create a vast "Dr Evil" Gardening Lair several hundred feet underground, and completely immune from the weather. There will be rooms for each type of plant/flower, all under UV artificial light. And a small underground railway to allow me to travel between them.
I shall hire a number of Henchmen to do most of the gardening, as well as to look menacing when I interogate prisoners have guests.
There will, of course, be a large Control Centre, with a huge map of the world with little blinking lights on it, showing the location and opening hours of all branches of Wilkinsons and B+Q, and a huge leather chair with a giant control panel next to it. (to control the Automatic Watering System).
As you might expect, there will be another large room full of black-clad people doing martial arts, abseiling from the roof, and generally Getting Ready To Take Over The World.
Naturally, one wall will slide to one side to reveal a vast "swimming pool".
Now, let me just check E-bay.
Search: "Sharks-with-lasers-in-their-foreheads"
Oh. None for sale.
Blast. Was it TOO much to ask for ?
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Post by ladybird on Jan 10, 2015 11:04:23 GMT
you actually are gardening on the roof roofgardener , windier up there I should think, are you in a flat then ?
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Post by roofgardener on Jan 10, 2015 13:19:36 GMT
I'm in a flat above a shop, Ladybird, with a small (25' x 25') asphalt roofgarden. There is a little "annexe" area that probably contains a polytunnel greenhouse. (I haven't checked for over 2 hours). This is the layout; ![]()  And here are some pictures |
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Try not to fall off though because you wont bounce. 
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