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Post by Granny Goose on Apr 29, 2018 19:14:23 GMT
A couple of years ago I gradually became aware that something was missing in my garden....it became very quiet, there was no birdsong to wake me at dawn, and no tweeting at dusk! The garden became very "still" and felt like there was no life in it! Even the sparrows had disappeared! I couldn't put my finger on it, the plants still grew, the garden still looked OK but it just "felt wrong!" One morning that summer, I came down as usual, went into the kitchen to "put kettle on"and there was a very large, grey rat on my kitchen windowsill (fortunately on the outside π) looking in at me! I was well freaked out I can tell you!!!π¬π¬ We called in a "Private Rat Catcher" (our local council rat man had a 6 week waiting list!), he arrived 48hrs later, set a couple of traps and did a thorough inspection of my garden,sheds and greenhouse. This is what he told me... 1. Rats are responsible for the diminishing number of birds in our gardens. They attack and kill birds once they've settled down to roost at night. 2. Bird feeders and bird food attracts rats to our gardens. 3. Bulbs, seeds, dried seed heads stored in greenhouses or sheds are very attractive to rats and they will find a way in to gnaw on them. 4. Candles in the garden also attract rats, they love the wax!! 5. Large climbing plants, especially on house walls, are loved by rats....they love to climb and lie in wait! (I have a very large Virginia creeper growing along the back of my house, above my kitchen window and that was where Ratty had set up home!)
So....I stopped feeding the birds, I cleared out my sheds and greenhouse and now only store seeds in an air tight container, and I stopped leaving candles outside on the tables (I do still light candles out there, but bring them back inside when I've finished enjoying them.) I'm not ready to part with my wall climbers yet, but did give them a serious pruning!
I'm happy to say that Ratty has never been seen since and that the birds have gradually returned to my garden, in bigger numbers, despite the fact that I don't feed them, they forage around and find their own food now, and the life and spirit of the garden has returned!
I'm posting this just for information and to pass on the advice of the Rat Catcher! He cost me Β£150, you get this info for free! π
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Post by grindle on Apr 30, 2018 5:21:16 GMT
they are a real pest in mum's garden Granny Goose she has a field next door and they tunnel through into her garden, we're battling them now again, the feeders are empty but the little b's were in her garage where she stores her rubbish in black bags, now we've got her a dustbin and have for the second time 'fed' them, hopefully they will get the message and disappear. Shame we have to stop feeding the birds as she enjoys watching them, but we can't take the risk in case they get in the house.
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Post by SueA on Apr 30, 2018 7:54:40 GMT
Useful information Granny Goose, I didn't know that about them liking candle wax! Luckily I've never seen a rat (so far, bet I've put a jinx on it now! ) in this garden, the only one I ever saw in the old garden was one the cat dumped on the doorstep once when she was a stray & we used to feed her along with our neighbours. I don't think we have any living in the garden, I put the infrared camera out a few times a week & the only rodent I've seen on it is a woodmouse, we have a tiny baby one at the moment which probably won't last long if the local cats see it & a magpie has been poking around where it hides. I store the bird food in the kitchen so there's only the food on the trays & grass but I'll keep an eye out. Baby woodmouse last night swiping a peanut:-
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Post by Geumlover on Apr 30, 2018 9:33:41 GMT
As this is a rural garden we get a lot of field rats visiting. Sure some live in the compost heap. I just put down baited traps every now and then and that clears them out for a while. Worse time is harvesting when the rats come out of the wheat to escape the combine. Certainly would not pay Β£150 for someone else to do it. The ready baited traps are easy to buy and easy to set out.
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Post by Granny Goose on Apr 30, 2018 17:55:57 GMT
they are a real pest in mum's garden Granny Goose she has a field next door and they tunnel through into her garden, we're battling them now again, the feeders are empty but the little b's were in her garage where she stores her rubbish in black bags, now we've got her a dustbin and have for the second time 'fed' them, hopefully they will get the message and disappear. Shame we have to stop feeding the birds as she enjoys watching them, but we can't take the risk in case they get in the house. I'm sorry to hear that grindle, especially as your Mum enjoyed feeding the birds. Hopefully the birds will find enough natural food in her garden to carry on visiting her? I felt so bad that the bird food I was putting out was instead attracting predators and I wasn't doing the birds any favours π’
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Post by Granny Goose on Apr 30, 2018 18:02:35 GMT
Useful information Granny Goose , I didn't know that about them liking candle wax! Luckily I've never seen a rat (so far, bet I've put a jinx on it now! ) in this garden, the only one I ever saw in the old garden was one the cat dumped on the doorstep once when she was a stray & we used to feed her along with our neighbours. I don't think we have any living in the garden, I put the infrared camera out a few times a week & the only rodent I've seen on it is a woodmouse, we have a tiny baby one at the moment which probably won't last long if the local cats see it & a magpie has been poking around where it hides. I store the bird food in the kitchen so there's only the food on the trays & grass but I'll keep an eye out. Baby woodmouse last night swiping a peanut:- Ahhhh.....the baby woodmouse is so cute!π I'm glad you've not seen any rats on your camera, or in your garden Sue, I was seriously freaked out by the one I saw! Do you still have a cat? I'm sure they are an excellent deterrent!π
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Post by Granny Goose on Apr 30, 2018 18:17:08 GMT
As this is a rural garden we get a lot of field rats visiting. Sure some live in the compost heap. I just put down baited traps every now and then and that clears them out for a while. Worse time is harvesting when the rats come out of the wheat to escape the combine. Certainly would not pay Β£150 for someone else to do it. The ready baited traps are easy to buy and easy to set out. Thanks Geumlover, I'll look out for the ready baited traps in future π My garden is a very small suburban garden and I was worried how close "Ratty" was to the house! I have a young grandson who plays out in the garden and also have many garden visitors in the summer months, so Ratty was definitely not welcome π. I paid the Β£150 for peace of mind, and the advice from Rat Man. He also told me that, due to Council cut backs, they are not putting the poison into the sewers any more, hence the increase in the Rat population in suburban gardens.
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Post by SueA on May 1, 2018 7:35:02 GMT
That's worrying about the council cutbacks on rat control Granny Goose, I don't mind rats - as long as they're pet ones! We don't have a cat anymore but there are quite a lot living around here who like to stroll through the garden, there is one who I call 'Tiger', a pretty little tabby who is absolutely lethal, always trying to catch birds/frogs/mice & she (I think it's a girl) has killed (& eaten!) a couple of woodpigeons in our garden in the past so I think she'd see off any rats.
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Post by sweetpea on May 1, 2018 13:35:59 GMT
Oh dear! I would rather have the few rats we encounter from time to time in our garden than some of the scumbags who we also encounter from time to time and have the temerity to call themselves human. Here, we feed the local birds including Magpies Jackdaws feral pigeons and herring gulls and if a few rats finish off the leftovers that is better than the food going to waste. rats tend to be quite fastidious about cleanliness and it is only by being forced to have to live in less salubrious surroundings in order to survive that they get classed as 'dirty' Much of the fear of rats stems from the historical past when the great plagues were caused by - not the rats - but the disease carried by the fleas on them and that was the Black rat not the grey ones commonly seen now. Many of the creatures that come to our garden are sometimes classed as vermin, pests or labelled dangerous eg the pigeons, magpies, seagulls, foxes, badgers mice, wasps and not forgetting ratty rat but that's what helps to make our place more interesting than a sterile environment where anything that crawls bites or stings is eradicated. right, I've got my coat and standing by for incoming
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Post by Cherry on May 1, 2018 14:22:13 GMT
None of my cats eat rats, but they do kill them. In fact, the cats are a real deterrent and do not bother with birds.
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