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Post by libralady on Aug 28, 2021 9:50:56 GMT
Hello all members of Garden Friends. I want to make those of you aware who use Whatsapp to chat to family and friends that there are scammers around via Whatsapp. They contact you as a family member saying they've had to change their phone provider so now have a new number which you are asked to save. I fell for the scam because at no stage did I have any reason to believe I wasn't talking to my son. I've used computers etc. for 25 years and cannot believe I was totally taken in by their modus operandi. Everything in the messages sounded very believable. Whatsapp gave me information to add security to my account so I am passing this on to you to protect yourselves. It has been reported to my Bank and the Police who have logged it as Fraud by Misrepresentation and it is ongoing. Please be vigilant friends on here who are Whatsapp users. Janet x
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Post by SueA on Aug 29, 2021 7:25:19 GMT
Thanks for pointing this out libralady, it must have been really upsetting for you, even in the middle of a pandemic there are still evil little scammers trying to rip people off! I've heard of people being scammed like this through texts & emails but the WhatsApp one is a new one to me. I would say if anyone asks you for money by any electronic/computer means then phone them & speak to them in person to check. Sorry this has happened to you & hope it can warn others.
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Post by sweetpea on Aug 29, 2021 17:03:22 GMT
I use whatsapp and no problems so far. Mind you if someone wants my overdraft they are welcome.
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Post by grindle on Aug 30, 2021 3:45:39 GMT
thanks for the heads up
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Post by SueA on Aug 30, 2021 7:09:32 GMT
I mentioned this type of scam on another group & it turned out that 2 people on there knew people who'd been caught by this, one had got their money back but the other hadn't as her bank said she hadn't heeded the security warnings & followed the correct procedures! The scams all seem to be asking for around £2000 pounds & one who had paid out said they were convinced it was their daughter as the tone of the messages & chatty wit was exactly the same as her, the scammers apparently track your messages & pick up information on family names etc. so be very wary.
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Post by lesley on Aug 30, 2021 7:17:58 GMT
Best thing is dont sign up to anything
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Post by libralady on Oct 12, 2021 0:43:50 GMT
I mentioned this type of scam on another group & it turned out that 2 people on there knew people who'd been caught by this, one had got their money back but the other hadn't as her bank said she hadn't heeded the security warnings & followed the correct procedures! The scams all seem to be asking for around £2000 pounds & one who had paid out said they were convinced it was their daughter as the tone of the messages & chatty wit was exactly the same as her, the scammers apparently track your messages & pick up information on family names etc. so be very wary. Just an update, of the £2,000 taken from me by the scammers, the 2nd transaction for some reason didn't go through and was put back into my bank. The matter is still ongoing but there have been some interesting developments. I never knew there was a connection between whatsapp, facebook and marketplace but there is. My daughter set up my facebook account 5 years or so ago and didn't heed the privacy warnings. I had blocked the 2nd scammer on whatsapp because I could see that the message started off exactly the same as the first one "Mum," so I blocked the number straight away but knew it would still be there should the Police need it. Only 10 days ago did I become aware how the 3 sites were linked so I had a look round the facebook set-up and was perplexed to see a blocked number from someone by the name of Ahmed Ibrahim so I now know the name of the 2nd scammer and his telephone number because that is the only number I have ever blocked on whatsapp and, by association it blocked on facebook too. The Police are still investigating but said it would be difficult to prove. Meantime, the organisation that handled the scammers' accounts where my money was paid to have until 18/10 to respond in some way and then the Financial Ombudsman will take over. The Bank have as good as blamed me which I was annoyed about because genuinely I thought I was chatting to my son and had no reason at all to doubt it because they passed themselves off as my son and it was all very plausible because I do have to help him out from time to time as my current account proves. I have lodged a formal complaint with my Bank Santander who really couldn't care less. I was horrified to see on TV last night 10/10 that Revolut (who held the scammer's accounts) were advertising their service on prime time TV encouraging people to do their transactions via them by download their App. Be wary folks - they are not easy to contact by phone and everything has to be done via their App - be aware that it is Revolut you will be dealing with and not Modulr which is a sister Company. Good at passing one from pillar to post. Meantime, I have to wait to see if I will be repaid the remaining £1,000. Santander I believe are not so good at paying out.
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Post by SueA on Oct 12, 2021 7:38:06 GMT
Glad that you've managed to at least get half of your money back libralady, hopefully Santander will do the right thing in the end. I hate the fact that everything is done via an 'app' nowadays, I'm sure it's much easier for people to commit fraud that way & if you lose your internet connection for whatever reason you're unable to access your account.
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Post by libralady on Oct 12, 2021 8:33:53 GMT
More worrying Sue is that the big banks are now encouraging people to move to smaller banks, for whatever reason. I think this will encourage more digital payment companies like Modulr/Revolut to set up. It is quite worrying and I often wonder how the vey elderly are coping with this digital age. I am surprised that Age UK are not shouting up about it. It is not easy for the elderly who don't use smart phones or computers to conduct their business on a day to day basis.
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Post by libralady on Dec 23, 2021 12:28:12 GMT
Good news folks! I eventually was refunded the remaining £1,000 the scammers took. The Police found one of the scammers in Rotterdam. It was a lengthy battle but perseverance paid off.
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Post by SueA on Dec 24, 2021 8:45:22 GMT
That's great news libralady! I've seen quite a few warnings about this scam since you mentioned it, glad that you got your money back.
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Post by libralady on Dec 24, 2021 16:21:12 GMT
Thank you. It was a battle.
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