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Post by scrumpy on Oct 17, 2014 22:00:44 GMT
Unless it is my stock, but I've only managed one decent vase in 2 years. Just cannot get any stem length. Nice blooms, but very small for me.
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Post by ian on Oct 17, 2014 22:07:36 GMT
May be get some new stock now I have twenty tubers if they lift ok you are welcome to a couple of tubers.
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Post by diggie on Oct 17, 2014 22:19:30 GMT
Yes 55 mm is the new size for the pompon we have for a number of years been campaigning to increase the Pom size and finally last year the EC of the Dahlia Society agreed to our request so the new size as from 2015 season is 55mm. Amber Festival is an excellent variety grown 6-7 up I found the better breaks come from low down on the plant. So I used to stop the plants after a couple of weeks after planting then when selecting laterals basically take out the middle of the plant leaving behind the lower laterals restricting to 6 or 7 removing all thin thin stuff. Don not over feed. Oakwood Goldcrest you will get a vase every week again strip out the thinner breaks and grow 7 up. Western Pirate has probably the best form of the miniatures ( but there are some good ones out now) has great centres and depth. The two poms you intend growing are excellent. So good luck take it easy best of luck. |
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Post by diggie on Oct 17, 2014 22:21:12 GMT
Hi Ian, thank you for the help and advice. I am extremely grateful.
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Post by ian on Oct 17, 2014 22:22:37 GMT
No problem good luck
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Post by Moonlight on Oct 17, 2014 22:46:16 GMT
Yes 55 mm is the new size for the pompon we have for a number of years been campaigning to increase the Pom size and finally last year the EC of the Dahlia Society agreed to our request so the new size as from 2015 season is 55mm.
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Post by Moonlight on Oct 17, 2014 22:55:11 GMT
Looking to add Amber Festival, Oakwood Goldcrest and Weston Pirate. In your picture of NDS rings is 55mm the new size for poms. looking to grow Willows Violet and Rhonda. Looking to keep to tried and tested varieties. Not as ambitious as you.  |
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Post by Raymond on Oct 17, 2014 22:58:54 GMT
Moonlight did Amber festival cope well in the rain and goldcrest ? As I might do both in front display also a kiwi.
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Post by Raymond on Oct 17, 2014 23:05:52 GMT
Moonlight I was looking on clearviews website the other evening I liked 2 small decs one Clearview David the other Clearview Debby. Has your dad tried either ? Not going to order just curious.
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Post by ian on Oct 18, 2014 9:29:28 GMT
Moonlight Poms, when the rings were converted to metric many years ago the Pom ring did not convert the same as the rest of the rings anyway I won't go int that too much. Some varieties of Pom get to there full potential a little larger than the 52 mm so we asked to increase the size up to 54mm and the committee agreed on 55mm from the 2015 season. Now you say why not just call them large poms well if you look at large poms they are some 30 mm larger ( personally I would do away with the large Pom) at the moment there are only a handful but each to there own and confronted with it on the bench as a judge they get they same consideration as the others as they should after all we spend a lot of time cultivating our chosen flower. No Large poms are large poms and pompon are smaller. Believe me if you are a specialist grower of poms the 3 mm will make a big difference
Yes the Avatar is Challenger (delayed response) sorry
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Post by ian on Oct 18, 2014 9:51:23 GMT
Raymond. Amber festival is better grown on the edge of your covers it is quite a large bloom the stems are not the best and therefore will not cope with too much water as the water settles in the bloom and becomes heavy whereas a cactus or semi cactus will allow most of the water to run off, but too much water and constant rain even these will be affected.
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Post by Raymond on Oct 18, 2014 10:09:38 GMT
Raymond. Amber festival is better grown on the edge of your covers it is quite a large bloom the stems are not the best and therefore will not cope with too much water as the water settles in the bloom and becomes heavy whereas a cactus or semi cactus will allow most of the water to run off, but too much water and constant rain even these will be affected. Thanks Ian. Looking into cover options but landlord not keen on permanent frame work. Might have to try the umbrella route. Only planning 2 shows next year then 3 or 4 year after. I might join Essex society as I could show in their novice class a week or two before Kent which is main aim. Kenora challenger is a cracking bloom saw it at Kent shown by Dave s. |
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Post by ian on Oct 18, 2014 15:58:47 GMT
Oh so you not seen good ones then Hehe
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Post by Raymond on Oct 18, 2014 17:01:12 GMT
Oh so you not seen good ones then Hehe  If you show in wisley next year Ian I can see "good ones "  |
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Post by ian on Oct 18, 2014 17:23:16 GMT
Not unless they sort out the venue it was a farce this year
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If you show in wisley next year Ian I can see "good ones " 
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