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Post by diggie on Nov 13, 2014 23:37:43 GMT
Good evening everyone  The reason I asked about small ball was in my schedule that I could show in it said Ball or large Pom as I am already doing Mary's Jomanda as min I thought I should be doing a small ball. In hindsight I should be looking at a second min ball backup or a large Pom. If anyone is interested here is my provisional list for 2015 Still playing with the numbers. I will only be going for 2 shows maybe 3 in First season Winholm Diane ryecroft zoe hillcrest Jersie Mary's Jomanda dikara superb Weston pirate Weston Spanish dancer Hapet ideal as bi colour and min semi cactus hillcrest candy minley Carol Display in front also back up varieties Staleen condesa kelsea Carla pink suffusion or senzoe Ursula or Brenda t Marston lilac and another to be picked hapet pearl and hapet daydream ( David hall says pearl has excellent form so we will see ) Oakwood goldcrest or a kiwi cameo and Gwyneth or another. Clearview Sundance to dabble with a large Another 2 medium cactus or semi cactus to try a medium Dec probably kismet Ac Abby and Clearview Debby let's see if any good. Hapet vinete Plus various single plants for show like fimbriated Main show ones from 4 plants up to 8 . Display from singles up to 4 or 5 . Main focus on small and min cactus and semi cactus and min and small Dec and ball. Not doing any giants or large Dec and still to fit in collarettes. All the above can still change and more than likely Will many times   At my members tuber sale next week so will see what they have . All the best  |
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Post by diggie on Nov 13, 2014 23:41:08 GMT
Hi Raymond, I see you have Dikara Superb on your provisional list. Are you going to grow it in 2015? I think it's a great min dec, and worth growing.
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Post by Raymond on Nov 14, 2014 0:02:53 GMT
Hi Raymond, I see you have Dikara Superb on your provisional list. Are you going to grow it in 2015? I think it's a great min dec, and worth growing. Hi diggie yes doing dikara superb. So many min decs to choose from. But dikara is main one going to pick a second one as back up looking at marston lilac, marston susanne, ryecroft Jan or a barberry. All lovely dahlias so a hard choice. It will be what fits in best with display in front and also height. I am being ambitious maybe overly so. Time will tell ! Any new ones for you next year ? |
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Post by Moonlight on Nov 14, 2014 0:13:19 GMT
Some of our decs looked more like balls this year than the balls did- and vice versa. L.A.T.E was a MinB- then MinD and now a MInB again! David Digweed sat happily for many a year as an SD and is now an SB! Almost infinite variations of petal formation between varieties and different soil types and conditions give different petal formations within the same variety.
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Post by Lou78W on Nov 14, 2014 8:28:28 GMT
Some of our decs looked more like balls this year than the balls did- and vice versa. L.A.T.E was a MinB- then MinD and now a MInB again! David Digweed sat happily for many a year as an SD and is now an SB! Almost infinite variations of petal formation between varieties and different soil types and conditions give different petal formations within the same variety. There was discussion earlier in the season along similar lines and there is a face book group ISO Dahlias which had quite a heated debate about 12 months ago. The debate will go on but fir anyone interested we started our lifting this week. Got all the Giant and Large Decs yesterday and today we lifted and washed 1680 field tubers (7 of us!) -some th size of footballs!! Only another 3000 or so to go now! Hi Dave Have been wondering if you had started lifting yet....half way there then...lol x |
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Post by scrumpy on Nov 14, 2014 9:04:58 GMT
I was wondering that. What happens if a variety listed as a dec and entered in a dec class has ball formation?
And vice verca.
Has Marston George been classified?
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Post by ian on Nov 14, 2014 9:19:00 GMT
Yes Marston George is now classified it is a miniature Dec it could have been shown in both as an unclassified variety but should conform to the class is mini ball or mini dec all that can happen with an unclassified is it would be down pointed on formation. Oversize is a different issue
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Post by Raymond on Nov 14, 2014 10:20:22 GMT
My Austrian hapet tubers have arrived. Not opened box as was leaving for work. Good size box so hopefully not chicken legs  I have a friend that ordered as well and he messaged me to say everything written in German  including payment instructions so I will need a translation done from a girl I work with Very trusting of Peter haslhofer to send first without payment |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 11:09:37 GMT
I wonder how much judging has changed over the years, and how much that perspective of what's expected of the dahlia has changed. Is it the concept of raisers, judges and exhibitors, to try and perfect nature, and as each plant is produce, closer to perfection, the band of winners reduces year on year. To the point where one single variety will continually come out on top, and becomes the only one exhibitors show, because it's the only one with a chance of getting a red card. Perhaps we're to focused on getting perfection, and become blinkered to the beauty of the dahlia... Just a thought 
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Post by Lou78W on Nov 14, 2014 11:12:04 GMT
Yes...very trusting!....he's probably put a firework in it to go off if he hasn't been paid in 2 weeks.....lol (sorry couldn't resist!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 11:23:45 GMT
Good evening everyone The reason I asked about small ball was in my schedule that I could show in it said Ball or large Pom as I am already doing Mary's Jomanda as min I thought I should be doing a small ball. In hindsight I should be looking at a second min ball backup or a large Pom. If anyone is interested here is my provisional list for 2015 Still playing with the numbers. I will only be going for 2 shows maybe 3 in First season Winholm Diane ryecroft zoe hillcrest Jersie Mary's Jomanda dikara superb Weston pirate Weston Spanish dancer Hapet ideal as bi colour and min semi cactus hillcrest candy minley Carol Display in front also back up varieties Staleen condesa kelsea Carla pink suffusion or senzoe Ursula or Brenda t Marston lilac and another to be picked hapet pearl and hapet daydream ( David hall says pearl has excellent form so we will see ) Oakwood goldcrest or a kiwi cameo and Gwyneth or another. Clearview Sundance to dabble with a large Another 2 medium cactus or semi cactus to try a medium Dec probably kismet Ac Abby and Clearview Debby let's see if any good. Hapet vinete Plus various single plants for show like fimbriated Main show ones from 4 plants up to 8 . Display from singles up to 4 or 5 . Main focus on small and min cactus and semi cactus and min and small Dec and ball. Not doing any giants or large Dec and still to fit in collarettes. All the above can still change and more than likely Will many times At my members tuber sale next week so will see what they have . All the best Blimey Raymond, you must have a large garden. Ten varieties for showing, at least ten plants a piece, that's one hundred, plus all the other plants you do, begonia's etc. I hope your landlords an understanding sort of bloke, digging up his garden. And, not sure how are you going to do all those cuttings without a greenhouse? I've been told by many on the forum, about running, before walking . Seems like really good advice to me mate 
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Post by Raymond on Nov 14, 2014 12:56:36 GMT
@markymate this is the provisional list. All subject to change :)Some coming as plants and cuttings from my society and being bought in also some very kind offers from forum members. Sitting down with Dave spencer and Andrew aspital next week to go through it and more than likely edit it back. Started clearing bottom back of garden and there is room for a greenhouse and potting shed but landlord would have to buy it. It is a big garden for London 120 feet long in back by 45wide. Split into 2 halfs really. Front garden display 40 x 30. Back top border and patio mixed planting and the begonias as part shade. Begonias are all in pots or some border ones only for my pleasure not for showing. Cutting back on annuals for next year to spend much more time on the dahlias. I also watered all by hand so installing irrigation so that will help. bottom part dahlias and roses as full Sun. Landlord is happy for me to do it. He makes some stupid decisions he put a bramleys seedling in the middle of the main dahlia border !!! That will be moved shortly. Probably going to cut back at least one to two classes in the end. Main focus on the sml and min cactus/semi cactus and the min Dec and ball. May drop winholme Diane and hillcrest candy I won't be doing the volumes of numbers of say tel or Ian etc... as my showing season is only 2 weeks with really only one show a priority. With display using it in groups of three to five plants of same cultivar to try and help with my timings etc... Also impact in the garden.They will be a back up variety and we shall see if I get a single vase from any of it. Most of one variety I am doing is 8 plants. The pom only 4 plants again this is subject to change. The min cactus 5 to 6 of each. Lots of singles in the front to indulge me The front lawn and back lawn being made smaller. Let's see what happens. Might fall flat on my face Happy to do the work. Even if only growing for display work is just as much to do it properly. That my opinion anyway. All the best Ps Which ones you picked and still doing the display ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 14:13:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 14:16:18 GMT
To many late nights at work AliceT |
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Post by Tel on Nov 14, 2014 14:43:15 GMT
Some of our decs looked more like balls this year than the balls did- and vice versa. L.A.T.E was a MinB- then MinD and now a MInB again! David Digweed sat happily for many a year as an SD and is now an SB! Almost infinite variations of petal formation between varieties and different soil types and conditions give different petal formations within the same variety.
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The reason I asked about small ball was in my schedule that I could show in it said 
including payment instructions so I will need a translation done from a girl I work with 
