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Post by scrumpy on Aug 14, 2015 12:36:45 GMT
I leave 2nd flush on. That one will reach size. 3 days to go at least on it.
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Post by Raymond on Aug 14, 2015 14:55:03 GMT
scrumpy that would put my timing on that to 28 days. Won't be showing zoe in Kent then or a lot of it . Got it all wrong. Never mind . Another show ten days after.
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Post by Moonlight on Aug 14, 2015 15:28:40 GMT
scrumpy that would put my timing on that to 28 days. Won't be showing zoe in Kent then or a lot of it . Got it all wrong. Never mind . Another show ten days after.
The heavy rain has I think ruined my Sir Alfs  so I won't be able to enter them this year. Hay Hoe.
My Dad's neighbour has decided to cut the Leyllandi trees that stand between the 2 properties. So cut and shredded tree - dust gone everywhere including his precious seedlings 2013 seedlings ruined.
Some things are just beyond our control. It's a shame.
Live and Learn and you never know you might discover something stunning as the last few days before the show approach and it may be something you were not expecting.
Good Luck I hope you have the chance to enter in at least 1 of your shows.
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Post by Raymond on Aug 14, 2015 21:54:21 GMT
Hi Moonlight I have put to much pressure on myself to do well. Did it all season. Need to take a step back a deep breath and see what happens. Dahlias not stressed they are fine it is me that is a wreck ! Hahaha I think I should have tried to find a local horticultural shoe rather than my first show being the Kent annual show.a lot of pressure the members there took it of prizes and placements in last year's national. So up against it . Don't want to show myself and in the end over complicated it. I should have let some varieties just flower like the zoe and work with them would have gained more knowledge of timing as well. . Hey ho I can only do my best if not good enough then so be it. Sorry to here about your sir Alf and also your dad's seedling. |
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Post by Raymond on Aug 14, 2015 22:46:03 GMT
scrumpy would you say if this bloom was to be shown it is about a day away from peak. That is now 36hours in water . I will be cutting for my show on the Saturday morning for the Sunday . Maybe if not fully there I could cut on the Friday night ? ian I did some basal removal and the stems of the mediums getting very tall even kenora sunset which is hard to get out of the foliage. Will give that another treatment of soluble sulphate of potash as stems are weak also the dianes and senzoe will give all the others normal high potash . I need 5foot canes I need to create a grid to support the stems and angle them away for each other.  
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Post by ian on Aug 14, 2015 22:56:55 GMT
Raymond if the blooms are of the same development on Friday either leave them on the plant until early Saturday morning then cut them place the, in deep water for Sunday morning cactus and semi cactus in my opinion are better cut and allowed to develop approx 24 - 36 hours. The bloom you cut would have been better left to develop more on the plants then it would have been better in water. That blooms still has a couple of days in it. But probably because it has been cut a couple of days it will soon be over and the florets will go soft (may or may not) experiment is good but do not fall into the trap of leaving the on the plant too long remember centre proportionally to the size of the bloom. When you cut that bloom it was very young. Good luck as always Ian
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Post by Moonlight on Aug 14, 2015 22:59:35 GMT
Hi Moonlight I have put to much pressure on myself to do well. Did it all season. Need to take a step back a deep breath and see what happens. Dahlias not stressed they are fine it is me that is a wreck ! Hahaha I think I should have tried to find a local horticultural shoe rather than my first show being the Kent annual show.a lot of pressure the members there took it of prizes and placements in last year's national. So up against it . Don't want to show myself and in the end over complicated it. I should have let some varieties just flower like the zoe and work with them would have gained more knowledge of timing as well. . Hey ho I can only do my best if not good enough then so be it. Sorry to here about your sir Alf and also your dad's seedling. just one of those things.
Sounds like a good idea - try looking up one now (not literally - a bit late for that but) at the very least you can go and have a look at the way that other people do things and you might find that some of your friends exhibit there to or in similar places. You never know your dahlias might surprise you yet and 6th of September is a long way off still.  Don't forget the whole point of Novice classes is to encourage people to exhibit. Even the most experienced and most successful exhibitors had to start somewhere.
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Post by Raymond on Aug 15, 2015 6:37:37 GMT
The back end of that zoe went by this morning ian . |
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Post by ian on Aug 15, 2015 7:43:03 GMT
So ther you are Raymond you now know that although they have plenty of centre in them they will only stand in water for so long. So leave them on the plant longer then give them a good drink
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Post by Raymond on Aug 15, 2015 8:26:03 GMT
So ther you are Raymond you now know that although they have plenty of centre in them they will only stand in water for so long. So leave them on the plant longer then give them a good drink Yep well noted . Here it is today . With Dec and ball Ian do can you cut the day before ?   |
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Post by ian on Aug 15, 2015 14:19:04 GMT
Hi Raymond I like to cut semi cactus and cactus dahlias about 32-36 hours before judging and decs and balls the night before so approx. 12-14 hours before judging they will stand for longer.
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Post by Raymond on Aug 15, 2015 15:24:53 GMT
Thanks ian I will cut Saturday first light the semi cactus and cactus for the sunday and the decs and balls that night after Sun down. Judging starts at 10.45am on the Sunday. All this dependant on whether anything ready or any good ! Haha |
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Post by diggie on Aug 18, 2015 17:06:40 GMT
Plants now coming into bloom. First Winholme Diane looks good but a bit small. First Oakwood Goldcrest looks great and is just inside the ring. All looking good for September.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2015 20:41:27 GMT
Ditto the Winholme Diane Diggie. Got quite a few of them starting to bloom now, really nice form but smaller than I would have liked. Rossendale Luke same as. I grew both 8 up and thinking 7 or even 6 might have been a better bet.
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Post by Raymond on Aug 18, 2015 21:28:13 GMT
@davidv Andrew aspital grows Diane 6 or 7up and strips all side shoots off so one flush. None of mine in flower yet but juicy buds growing fast. Got 19days until show. I might just make it. Timing here a bit quicker.
Reading Ivor kitcheners book for the nds. From an open bud when you can see the Calyx properly approx 15 to 20 days on a small Dec in London depending on the variety and location.
I have now started to time from when the bud is clearly seen and the calyx opens as that for me is your timing. Attached 45 labels yesterday with an aim to gain info for next year.
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so I won't be able to enter them this year. Hay Hoe.
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