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Post by ste b on Feb 19, 2015 19:03:06 GMT
Never grown pink suff like that , good way of saving space . I grow it 12" a part and 4up take all wing buds + side shoots off. Am not growing it this season.
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Post by Raymond on Feb 19, 2015 19:17:06 GMT
Trying 6 of them ste b give it a try. More than anything I liked it. Let's see if it comes to size . Senzoe 5 to 6 up Diane 6 to 7 up And stripped down Will only get one flush from Diane And senzoe Second show will be mini show so can try some of my novelty one's like the hapets etc... In single bloom class |
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 19, 2015 21:59:51 GMT
Miniature Jomanda would not win with me Steve you know that if there were other entries in the class of a similar qualityyes I know it would not win with you Ian and a few other judges I know. Last show I went to mini jo in sm class got 2nd no 1st award given . Great bit of judging hehe |
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 19, 2015 22:06:14 GMT
I'm waiting for a giant ball to be bred  |
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Post by ian on Feb 19, 2015 22:22:40 GMT
yes I know it would not win with you Ian and a few other judges I know. Last show I went to mini jo in sm class got 2nd no 1st award given . Great bit of judging hehe Hi Moonlight the point we were making is that although Jomanda is dual classified so can be shown up or down small or miniature if it shown in a small ball class they must be bigger than a miniature if not then they must be down pointed or loose points because of the size not being made not up to the small ring but certainly bigger than the miniature ring. Personal variety favourites do not come into the equation when I am judging. I have got to say some judges look to take the easy way out some times by giving the kiwi Gloria or Trelyn the prize instead the Zoe sport. I do like Kiwis but if there are better on the bench then they win. I judged three vases of Mira at Southport and gave them first over three bases of Trelyn to the disgust of the grower of the Trelyn now when Pointed out why he reluctantly accepted and at out Vagabonds show last year I judged Scrumpys vase of Zoe sport above kiwis. So a judge should judge what he sees on the bench without likes or dislikes |
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Post by cici on Feb 19, 2015 22:42:14 GMT
I like Snoho Doris and snoho Sonia also caught my eye. To Many lovely dahlias shame I dont have more space. Have you seen Clearview Debby cici in the flesh ? some pictures look great others not sure now. Saw a couple of hapet ball I like the look of from Peter haslhofer in Austria. Maybe next year. Haven't seen C. Debby, but have heard lovely things about it from growers. Grew Snoho Doris in the overflow garden for the first time, so it bloomed late and neglected, but it impressed me with the quantity of nice looking blooms with a subtle color. Truthfully, I had no idea how well it shows, or I might have groomed it a bit more.  Saw Snoho Sonia in a public garden, and am working on a trade to get it, among other varieties that caught my eye.  |
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 19, 2015 22:43:35 GMT
Obviously we all have personal favourite and least favourite varieties etc. but for you both to agree ('and a few other judges'...) there must be something not quiet good enough for you to think that with a critical eye and your 'judging hat' on, at top level exhibits. Hi Moonlight the point we were making is that although Jomanda is dual classified so can be shown up or down small or miniature if it shown in a small ball class they must be bigger than a miniature if not then they must be down pointed or loose points because of the size not being made not up to the small ring but certainly bigger than the miniature ring. Personal variety favourites do not come into the equation when I am judging. I have got to say some judges look to take the easy way out some times by giving the kiwi Gloria or Trelyn the prize instead the Zoe sport. I do like Kiwis but if there are better on the bench then they win. I judged three vases of Mira at Southport and gave them first over three bases of Trelyn to the disgust of the grower of the Trelyn now when Pointed out why he reluctantly accepted and at out Vagabonds show last year I judged Scrumpys vase of Zoe sport above kiwis. So a judge should judge what he sees on the bench without likes or dislikes ian you remind me of my Dad.
Sometimes as a judge you have to make difficult decisions and not everyone will be happy with them but you always have to be fair. Always. |
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Post by ian on Feb 19, 2015 22:57:59 GMT
Well that's ok I am sure your dad is good man and a good judge of people oh and Dahlias, I hope he hasn't lost the pink medium from last year and if he wants to send me a cutting he can hehe and if you want to call me dad that's ok to ha ha ha ha
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Post by ste b on Feb 19, 2015 23:46:40 GMT
Hi Moonlight am not a judge , but I know when am in with a chance of a red card, Like Ian said top varieties can be beaten with shall we say lesser varieties? Providing they are grown well and judged fairly , a few years back I put a vase of 5 Rhonda up they where spot on best I've grown ,had a quick luck at all the exhibits before the judging, and new if he behaved himself I had chance of a medal with them, on my return to the show had silver medal and best exhibit in SHOW, kiwi grower was going ape, " Poms should never beat kiwis or Diane's " he said. his exhibit looked ok , till you had a close look and spotted all the faults, He was a brave judge he got a right ear bashing.
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 20, 2015 1:00:04 GMT
Hi Moonlight am not a judge , but I know when am in with a chance of a red card, Like Ian said top varieties can be beaten with shall we say lesser varieties? Providing they are grown well and judged fairly , a few years back I put a vase of 5 Rhonda up they where spot on best I've grown ,had a quick luck at all the exhibits before the judging, and new if he behaved himself I had chance of a medal with them, on my return to the show had silver medal and best exhibit in SHOW, kiwi grower was going ape, " Poms should never beat kiwis or Diane's " he said. his exhibit looked ok , till you had a close look and spotted all the faults, He was a brave judge he got a right ear bashing. After all we won't know which is top variety is top until the judging has finished. May the best dahlia win.ste b do you only show up North or do you show at the National as well?ian I'll ask my Dad for a progress report tomorrow re. pink seedling number 3 from 2013. All I can say about it is, I am sure that he won't let it out of his sight until he is happy with it but like I always do I will pass comments on especially when it is about one of his seedlings. Can't wait to see the 2015 seedlings both his and mine or should I write mine and his.  I won't ever be an exhibitor at Harrogate or the National but I am going to really try in the shows that I do and if the best judges pick the best bloom on the day of each class, then I will respectively be a happy woman even if I don't get placed. |
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Post by Tel on Feb 20, 2015 12:21:27 GMT
Taken the first 30 cuttings from Garden Friends
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Post by Cat on Feb 20, 2015 14:37:28 GMT
Taken the first 30 cuttings from Garden Friends Lovely to hear you've had a gardening potter about Tel and a job well done! |
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Post by Raymond on Feb 20, 2015 14:45:02 GMT
So picked my additional plant from halls and picked an older one called Allan snowfire. Looks lovely compact height medium in brilliant white. Thank you dahliadave |
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 20, 2015 15:24:05 GMT
So picked my additional plant from halls and picked an older one called Allan snowfire. Looks lovely compact height medium in brilliant white. Thank you dahliadave  that your Allan Snowfire does well for you to. |
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Post by Moonlight on Feb 20, 2015 17:17:57 GMT
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I won't ever be an exhibitor at Harrogate or the National but I am going to really try in the shows that I do and if the best judges pick the best bloom on the day of each class, then I will respectively be a happy woman even if I don't get placed.
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