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Post by Cat on Sept 30, 2017 18:48:17 GMT
Raymond do you remove all the blooms except the sport ones to secure it? Not sure of the securing a sport process
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Post by diggie on Oct 1, 2017 16:47:29 GMT
Hi Cat, I asked the same question previously and this was the answer I received from a well known dahlia champion.
Take as many side shoots as possible from the flowering lateral as you can. If they are not big enough allow them to grow on. Prepare the cuttings you may have and reduce the size of the leaves to prevent transpiration and help keep the cutting turgid. Root them pot them up and the hard part is keeping them alive over winter. These plants can then be the mother plants from which you can take cuttings. Only take a few cuttings to see if the sport has taken.
Hope this helps.
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Post by Cat on Oct 2, 2017 21:42:58 GMT
thanks diggie thats interesting
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Post by derekbrooks on Oct 13, 2017 22:21:15 GMT
I write seasonal jobs for each month in the magazine of the National Vegetable Society. I don't only write about veg though but about flowers as well. This month there is a picture of dahlias on my allotment. A few days ago I had an email from a man called John . He said how much my notes had helped him but he said that he had been trying to grow dahlias without much success. He wanted to know what the varieties were that were on my picture and where he could obtain them from. The varieties were L'Ancresse, Sir Alf Ramsey, Rycroft magnum and Jomanda.( He knew my email address because he had contacted me a while ago because he had read in one of the magazines that I had written a book about flowers and wanted to buy one.). I replied to him saying that I would send him either some tubers or some plants next spring and I didn't want anything for them. When he replied to that, he said tubers would be fine as he had a propagator he could use . He also said that he would like a white medium decorative . I haven't got one at present and I told him that the only two I am familiar with are B'J' Beauty and Alf's mascot because I used to grow them. Have any of you grown any other variety that I could tell him about?. I also sent him a list of the varieties that I have and he replied again saying that he would like the following , and would pay me for the carriage--Elma E, Rycroft magnum, Trouper Dan, Hillcrest Candy, Ruskin Myra, Willos Violet, Taratahi Ruby, Sir Alf Ramsey and L'Ancresse so I will send him a tuber of each.
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Post by johnjess on Oct 14, 2017 18:15:36 GMT
Hi again , I'm now planning next year's order from Halls of Heddon and fancy a red small/min Dec or ball. I've kind of narrowed it down to Marston Suzanne or Sheval Megan, any opinions on either of these would be very welcome. I'm leaning towards Sheval Megan as I do like the slightly larger flowers .
Also a question for the guys who show their dahlias, do you only show flowers from the first flush or do you show from the second flush also? Just that I've not completely ruled out showing at local agricultural/ horticultural shows and if first flush only then I would need to start reading up on timing the plants.
Thanks Johnjess
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Post by diggie on Oct 14, 2017 22:22:49 GMT
I write seasonal jobs for each month in the magazine of the National Vegetable Society. I don't only write about veg though but about flowers as well. This month there is a picture of dahlias on my allotment. A few days ago I had an email from a man called John . He said how much my notes had helped him but he said that he had been trying to grow dahlias without much success. He wanted to know what the varieties were that were on my picture and where he could obtain them from. The varieties were L'Ancresse, Sir Alf Ramsey, Rycroft magnum and Jomanda.( He knew my email address because he had contacted me a while ago because he had read in one of the magazines that I had written a book about flowers and wanted to buy one.). I replied to him saying that I would send him either some tubers or some plants next spring and I didn't want anything for them. When he replied to that, he said tubers would be fine as he had a propagator he could use . He also said that he would like a white medium decorative . I haven't got one at present and I told him that the only two I am familiar with are B'J' Beauty and Alf's mascot because I used to grow them. Have any of you grown any other variety that I could tell him about?. I also sent him a list of the varieties that I have and he replied again saying that he would like the following , and would pay me for the carriage--Elma E, Rycroft magnum, Trouper Dan, Hillcrest Candy, Ruskin Myra, Willos Violet, Taratahi Ruby, Sir Alf Ramsey and L'Ancresse so I will send him a tuber of each.
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Post by diggie on Oct 14, 2017 22:26:46 GMT
Hi Derek, Tell John to watch Dave Gillams video clips on you tube titled starting again. All the information on growing dahlias is there. I believe there about 14 video clips.
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Post by ian on Oct 15, 2017 19:05:05 GMT
Hi again , I'm now planning next year's order from Halls of Heddon and fancy a red small/min Dec or ball. I've kind of narrowed it down to Marston Suzanne or Sheval Megan, any opinions on either of these would be very welcome. I'm leaning towards Sheval Megan as I do like the slightly larger flowers . Also a question for the guys who show their dahlias, do you only show flowers from the first flush or do you show from the second flush also? Just that I've not completely ruled out showing at local agricultural/ horticultural shows and if first flush only then I would need to start reading up on timing the plants. Thanks Johnjess Hi JJ Marston Suzanne is a far superior variety to Megan. Suzanne is a full size Miniature Dec. Yes it can go over size, when I have grown it (and had best in show at Harrogate with it) I treat it a little like a Pom try to get three stops into it and grow about 14 up but then only either bending over the terminal bud and allowing the two side blooms to develop but whatever way it grows for you then take it easy. Also. Tend not to feed miniatures. Any yellow streak in the odd petals are removed during development. She also Megan looks a good size bloom in a vase but on closer inspection the vases I have seen and judged have had lots of yellow streaks there are better Small decs. It is my opinion that Suzanne is a better proposition.
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Post by derekbrooks on Oct 15, 2017 21:28:12 GMT
Thanks for that comment, Diggie. Before I reply to John, have any of you grown any white medium decs that I could tell him about ?. I asked you this before but nobody has replied.
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Post by diggie on Oct 15, 2017 22:24:23 GMT
Hi Derek, I tried blyton Everest this season which is white with a centre lavender flush. However it has sported into a totally white bloom. I will have to wait until next year to see if the sport has stabilised. This is the only time I have grown a white dahlia. The only other all white dahlia I am aware of is white Charlie 2.
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Post by johnjess on Oct 16, 2017 5:50:45 GMT
Hi again , I'm now planning next year's order from Halls of Heddon and fancy a red small/min Dec or ball. I've kind of narrowed it down to Marston Suzanne or Sheval Megan, any opinions on either of these would be very welcome. I'm leaning towards Sheval Megan as I do like the slightly larger flowers . Also a question for the guys who show their dahlias, do you only show flowers from the first flush or do you show from the second flush also? Just that I've not completely ruled out showing at local agricultural/ horticultural shows and if first flush only then I would need to start reading up on timing the plants. Thanks Johnjess Hi JJ Marston Suzanne is a far superior variety to Megan. Suzanne is a full size Miniature Dec. Yes it can go over size, when I have grown it (and had best in show at Harrogate with it) I treat it a little like a Pom try to get three stops into it and grow about 14 up but then only either bending over the terminal bud and allowing the two side blooms to develop but whatever way it grows for you then take it easy. Also. Tend not to feed miniatures. Any yellow streak in the odd petals are removed during development. She also Megan looks a good size bloom in a vase but on closer inspection the vases I have seen and judged have had lots of yellow streaks there are better Small decs. It is my opinion that Suzanne is a better proposition. Thank you ian. Much appreciated.
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Post by ian on Oct 16, 2017 6:23:21 GMT
JJ you also asked about showing first flush blooms in the main first flush blooms are usually the best blooms second flush blooms tend to lack the quality of the first but still can be good. Most growers who show do not rely on second flush blooms Poms tend to be ok. If you have taken blooms from a plant early n in the season you could manipulate the plant and grow shoots from lower down on the laterals and instead of then trying to grow say another seven then only try growing 4-5 which will provide blooms later on. But my advice would be not to bother and just try to time the blooms better on average 54-60 days from a tiny shoot on the leaf axle. Good luck
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Post by johnjess on Oct 16, 2017 20:11:12 GMT
Thanks again Ian. I'll be back with lots of timing questions at the start of next season!!
johnjess
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Post by johndoe on Oct 17, 2017 15:33:50 GMT
Hi Derek, I tried blyton Everest this season which is white with a centre lavender flush. However it has sported into a totally white bloom. I will have to wait until next year to see if the sport has stabilised. This is the only time I have grown a white dahlia. The only other all white dahlia I am aware of is white Charlie 2. Hi Diggie. When you say it sported into a totally white bloom, was the lavender flush evident when the bloom first came out, then disappeared as it got older?
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Post by diggie on Oct 18, 2017 16:32:41 GMT
Hi johndoe, The lavender flush was not evident when the bloom appeared and remained white. I have taken cuttings from the stem from which it appeared and these are in the propagator rooting. All is looking good so far. I hope the blooms stabilise. I will have to wait and see.
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