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Post by candyblue on Sept 24, 2011 19:20:19 GMT
Finally managed to get time to upload my photos from last weeks show The first one, I entered 3 vases of poms, the stems were very wiggly and I wouldnt have put the 3rd vase in except the show manager said would I be able to make up another vase as there wasnt any other poms in the show  The next one is Ryecroft rebel  Blyton softer gleam - I have to say this has been fab have had loads of flowers off of it  Marys Jomanda, again have had lots of of these plants too  and Brians Dream, love the colours on these  |
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Post by Cherry on Sept 24, 2011 19:30:40 GMT
I agree that Brian's Dream is very beautiful. Super dahlias.
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Post by (DahliaMan) Cornish Paul on Sept 24, 2011 19:33:12 GMT
Had some good oakwoods this year paul won the single vase s.s.cac at harrogate and my local society show i grew it 6 up.Was thinking about small semi cactus class at harogate using oakwood,myra and another just not sure about the other yet.What was your respectable like paul. Hi DC Respectable deep blooms,v good petal count, but later bloomers. I had from Frank Taylor, last day March plants and the first bloom was early September. I find theyre a bit shaky on the necks and bit rubbery in the stem. Having said that I have show a few blooms and they do look the part staged, better form than Andrea. Myra I grew for several years but found blooms can lack depth and some twisted stems. Have you considered Cherwell Goldcrest?  Paul |
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Post by dcdahlia on Sept 24, 2011 19:35:47 GMT
very nice candy,I had some very good softer gleams too,very well done
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Post by scrumpy on Sept 25, 2011 7:17:33 GMT
Had some good oakwoods this year paul won the single vase s.s.cac at harrogate and my local society show i grew it 6 up.Was thinking about small semi cactus class at harogate using oakwood,myra and another just not sure about the other yet.What was your respectable like paul. Trouble is that what grows well in one garden may not be as good in another...you mentioned Ryecroft Magnum having daisy eye centres, i had no such problem, yet a couple of years ago every white charlie two and mascot maya turned out that way. If you can get good stock of Kilmorie, that makes a nice bloom, though it is early to flower. I'm looking at the 2nd flush of Ryecroft Zoe at the moment and they look pretty good. I think the other problem is that people look at what the experts grow and play copycat, so you end up with everyone showing the same varieties, missing out on varieties that could be better. Perhaps you should have an experimental bed of 6 plants of a few varieties and see how they do. I know that for the nationals people grow 20 or 30 plants of a variety, but you can get just as good an entry from fewer plants  |
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Post by (DahliaMan) Cornish Paul on Sept 25, 2011 8:12:19 GMT
Had some good oakwoods this year paul won the single vase s.s.cac at harrogate and my local society show i grew it 6 up.Was thinking about small semi cactus class at harogate using oakwood,myra and another just not sure about the other yet.What was your respectable like paul. Trouble is that what grows well in one garden may not be as good in another...you mentioned Ryecroft Magnum having daisy eye centres, i had no such problem, yet a couple of years ago every white charlie two and mascot maya turned out that way. If you can get good stock of Kilmorie, that makes a nice bloom, though it is early to flower. I'm looking at the 2nd flush of Ryecroft Zoe at the moment and they look pretty good. I think the other problem is that people look at what the experts grow and play copycat, so you end up with everyone showing the same varieties, missing out on varieties that could be better. Perhaps you should have an experimental bed of 6 plants of a few varieties and see how they do. I know that for the nationals people grow 20 or 30 plants of a variety, but you can get just as good an entry from fewer plants Hi Scrumpy Youre thinking on the same wave length as me. I realised several years ago how the NDS list of winning varitieties should be used as a guide for several reasons. Mainly as you say some grow better in one area than another. Good examples being the Moonlights where in Cornwall you never see one on the show bench, our climate is too dampy (pity). Similar with say Winholme Diane, the best small dec' but rarely seen what I would consider top notch blooms. Yes Ive had some really fine Winholmes and Primrose Dianes admittedly, but too inconsistent. This is why Ive been growing Scaur Sunset, far more reliable, a 'workhorse' dahlia. Ruby (sd) ok its a bit chunky in the petal but hard petalled and every bloom is showable. Ive been seeking DC's advice re small decs for 2012, and this is the beauty of a platform like this. Im delighted there are a number of knowlegable dahlia growers here to ask and share questions/answers with. Regards, Paul |
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Post by lesley on Sept 25, 2011 8:25:30 GMT
 Hi Candyblue, what's this one called please. I have this one growing but I didn't know what it was called, many thanks Les. |
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Post by (DahliaMan) Cornish Paul on Sept 25, 2011 8:26:03 GMT
I sought the advise of Frank Taylor re small decs for 2012, and I'd like to pass on that advice and to let folks know of a new dahlia coming in his 2012 list. Frank sells comparitively few dahlias compared to say Halls, Ridgeview, Station House, etc. Incidentally, I did ask Dave Gillam and Ian Sutherland (via another 'platform' that I, and DC use) in regards to suppliers and both were very complimentary of Frank T. Anyway, Frank rang me a couple of nights ago. He says (hopefully my memory serves me right) Leopold Chloe needs to be cut early as it has green centres (sounds like some added nitrogen needed then) and the blooms form better cut and in water, Leoplold Sophie can have some clock faced blooms so need to grow a number of plants. He said how he's not selling Rossendale Peach for 2012. Frank's 2012 list is due to be despatched end of September (last year it arrived to me on 30/9). A new dahlia he mentioned was (hopefully I heard the name correctly) VAL'S CANDY, a sport of Hillcrest Candy (msc). I cannot recall what colour it is but a darker colour than Hillcrest C. seems to 'ring a bell'. Ive grown Hillcrest Candy this year and mightily impressed (at last a dahlia that justifies the hype). It produces 2 or 3 blooms of the same stage at the same time and all showable blooms. Grew it 6 up, removed wings plus next 3 pairs shoots down. It grows to a good 4 feet, solid stems, deep blooms. I believe Hillcrest C. is here for a few years potentially (a blessing to the non Moonlight growers). Has anyone here seen Val's Candy at any of the trials? Regards, Paul |
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Post by dcdahlia on Sept 25, 2011 9:48:34 GMT
Hi scrumpy/paul I'm not to bothered about growing what everyone else is I would rather grow a dahlia I can get on the bench than grow ones like moolights and dianes that I cant get on the bench.I took on the moonlights with 3 vases of ruskin michelle at harrogate in the 3 vases of medium cactus class and finished 4th of 5 (only 3 points behind 3rd) i could have split these vases up and used them elsewhere but i wanted to have a go, if i had grown moonlights i would not have even got an entry.If you are looking for a med semi cactus i can not speak to highly of ruskin michelle.I planted 30 end april early may plants ( can flower early) first week of june and stopped it with buds on on the 24th june I took it right back to 3 pairs of leaves and debranched to 4 stems 1st week in august .I fed once a week with miracle grow until last week in august and ceased watering 2nd september.I cut 14 for a local show on the tenth sept getting a first and second,16 for harrogate winning the single vase of med semi cac beating 10 other entries (numerous candy) and taking on the moonlights,and I cut 14 for my society show on he same weekend has harrogate winning the multi vase class getting best vase, best exhibit and a silver medal.
I had than right up to the ring and some great depth on them,Dave Fowler the winner of the medium cactus championship class even wanted to know how I had grown them and could not believe how I had not got a ticket for them in the 3 vase (some judges just can't see past the moonlights).This is also the dahlia I won a silver medal with the year before at harrogate.
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Post by dcdahlia on Sept 25, 2011 10:13:54 GMT
Hi Paul I have not heard of the sport off candy,I have 4 plants of sophie in to try off the raiser but had no room under cover for them.They do come clock faced and talking to the raiser (who planted 50) they damped off as easily as the dianes this year but then so did a lot of phil watsons stuff.(Thinks he fed to much and made them soft,first year in 20 he has not won a silver medal)you are quite welcome to tubers if you want to give it a try. I see Ron Thomas used it in his winning exhibit of small decs at shepton.Chloe does have a big green centre but it does eventualy disappear. This is an early flowerer so I double stopped it for timing reasons and got it a bit wrong they are just all coming out now I have only shown 1 vase but that was in my winnig small dec championship at harrogate i could have shown some this weekend.Gonna either plant much later plants or do both stops earlier next year.Made a mistake with my kiwi to I stopped them 10 days later than I normally would and it has shown they are all coming out now but are damping off now.I used a vase of 5 in the intermediate championship at harrogate finnishing 3rd of 14 but that is the only vase i had off apart from a vase of 3 at a local wmc show.Cherwell goldcrest Is one of the many small semi cac I have thought of.
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Post by Lou78W on Sept 25, 2011 14:34:20 GMT
Hi Candyblue, what's this one called please. I have this one growing but I didn't know what it was called, many thanks Les. Hi Les......Rycroft Rebel....see Candy's pic at top of page ;D |
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Post by lesley on Sept 25, 2011 15:44:50 GMT
Thanks Lou, I did see that but when I punch in Rycroft Rebel it came up with all sorts of other colours, never mind I'll go with that. |
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Post by lesley on Sept 25, 2011 17:57:03 GMT
Does anyone know what this one is called I know it's not out properly.  I thought I had lost this one but here it is, my dahlia's have been very late in flowering this year, does anyone know why |
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Post by dcdahlia on Sept 25, 2011 21:07:35 GMT
It could just be the cool summer lesley
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Post by Lou78W on Sept 26, 2011 6:23:34 GMT
I agree with DC. I've had some not even flowered at all this year Les  |
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