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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 14:53:41 GMT
I managed to get hold of a couple of nice sized Cream Moonlight tubers, any recommendations on how to grow them ?
Tried growing Eastwood a couple of years ago but with little success.
My ground tends to be a little on the heavy side so to avoid some damping off a raised bed to accomodate 12 plants is the plan.
My question being how many up ? '8' and is a double stop required ?
Mark
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Post by snute2008 on Jan 20, 2013 16:00:21 GMT
Tel, can I ask about your heat mat. Do you have any polystrene underneath or sand, how do you have it set up?
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 20, 2013 16:32:51 GMT
I managed to get hold of a couple of nice sized Cream Moonlight tubers, any recommendations on how to grow them ? Tried growing Eastwood a couple of years ago but with little success. My ground tends to be a little on the heavy side so to avoid some damping off a raised bed to accomodate 12 plants is the plan. My question being how many up ? '8' and is a double stop required ? Mark when do you want them to flower? I grow on a single stop, 5 up, for early August. I have a very light soil that doesn't hold water well. |
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Post by Tel on Jan 20, 2013 16:39:14 GMT
Tel, can I ask about your heat mat. Do you have any polystrene underneath or sand, how do you have it set up? I use polystrene laid on the bench, heat mat on top of that, then covered with polythene to help protect the mat. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 16:47:48 GMT
I managed to get hold of a couple of nice sized Cream Moonlight tubers, any recommendations on how to grow them ? Tried growing Eastwood a couple of years ago but with little success. My ground tends to be a little on the heavy side so to avoid some damping off a raised bed to accomodate 12 plants is the plan. My question being how many up ? '8' and is a double stop required ? Mark when do you want them to flower? I grow on a single stop, 5 up, for early August. I have a very light soil that doesn't hold water well. Last week in August, 1st week in Sept. Mark |
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 20, 2013 17:10:25 GMT
On a single stop, end of may, I end up having to grow some of them on a side bud to hold them back for my show.
I tried to get some later flowering blooms by stopping some plants that were way behind the others end of June. They would have flowered before your dates too.
If I was going for September again, I would double stop the best four leaders, and when the buds show on the laterals reduce to 5 or 6.
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Post by marynz on Jan 20, 2013 18:28:27 GMT
This morning i looked at Alva's Supreme in Dahlia Haven's online catalogue. Quite different from the photo I posted! Thanks for telling me, Tel.
And thanks, Scrumpy, I looked at the Halls of Heddon page, and the Daleko Jupiter I photographed was pretty much the colour of their one in real life, even though my photo hasn't turned out that colour. Their Rose Jupiter looks different from ones I have seen so far here, but maybe that is to do with the degree of shade used in growing it.
Sadly my camera is not very true to colour, but you know how it is... you can buy an awful lot of garden supplies for the price of a camera!
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 20, 2013 18:35:31 GMT
 I still think it's the best looking giant in the garden. I stopped growing it because no matter how hard I tried, it always dropped it's petals for me on the show bench, and you could never tell when. |
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Post by snute2008 on Jan 20, 2013 20:19:52 GMT
Tel, can I ask about your heat mat. Do you have any polystrene underneath or sand, how do you have it set up? I use polystrene laid on the bench, heat mat on top of that, then covered with polythene to help protect the mat. Sorry, more questions. Does it matter on the thickness of the polystrene? also what sort of polythene? finally do you mind me asking the make/model etc? The reason for asking is that I bought some soil warming cables but now need to build a box for them and put in the sand etc. It will not be easy to store once I finished with the dahlia cuttings and need the space in the greenhouse again. I think a mat might be a better option but dont have much time to get it organised. Thanks for your help. |
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Post by scrumpy on Jan 20, 2013 20:34:55 GMT
Is there any way you can make a bed in the base of your greenhouse like this  I am re doing mine due to a cable failure. It will be ideal for providing the bottom heat you need. No need to worry about taking it down then. |
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Post by marynz on Jan 21, 2013 3:42:29 GMT
Scrumpy, your Alva's Supremes are gorgeous! Thanks for sharing the photo! I'm afraid I am going to reciprocate with something less beautiful, so sense of humour to the ready! I have been trying a few bee pollinated seedlings, just to get the feel for raising Dahlias from seed. This is not good, but believe me, it is not half as bad as the other two which have flowered so far. I am just sharing it for people who are wondering about having a dabble:  |
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Post by Tel on Jan 21, 2013 5:54:00 GMT
I use polystrene laid on the bench, heat mat on top of that, then covered with polythene to help protect the mat. Sorry, more questions. Does it matter on the thickness of the polystrene? also what sort of polythene? finally do you mind me asking the make/model etc? The reason for asking is that I bought some soil warming cables but now need to build a box for them and put in the sand etc. It will not be easy to store once I finished with the dahlia cuttings and need the space in the greenhouse again. I think a mat might be a better option but dont have much time to get it organised. Thanks for your help. Mine is a Hotbox Heatwave, they come in different sizes, just google it, the polystrene is 1in thick, but they recomend 2in, the polythene is what a bed mattress came in, so i did not have to buy any. |
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Post by Tel on Jan 21, 2013 11:23:00 GMT
Terrycotta and Pudsey are waking up.  |
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Post by snute2008 on Jan 21, 2013 12:10:48 GMT
Thanks scrumpy but I have staging all round so no where to make that bed this year. I am getting another greenhouse in a couple of months which is too late for this year but maybe next I can have a go at building the type you suggest.
Thanks Tel will have a look at their website. I was not sure whether the plastic had to be a certain sort, clear or black but I suppose it does not matter. I have got some rolls of black plastic that I had for covering parts of the allotment so I could use that.
Thanks Guys.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 13:09:25 GMT
On a single stop, end of may, I end up having to grow some of them on a side bud to hold them back for my show. I tried to get some later flowering blooms by stopping some plants that were way behind the others end of June. They would have flowered before your dates too. If I was going for September again, I would double stop the best four leaders, and when the buds show on the laterals reduce to 5 or 6. Thanks Scrumpy, I think it may be a double stop and stop in 2 lots a week apart, probably 3 and 4th week in June. Mark |
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