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Post by sweetpea on Feb 1, 2011 18:44:08 GMT
Now is a good time to sow your sweetpea seed for a spring planting. They will of course be later than any sown in the autumn but will be fine for garden or indeed show if you have already prepared some ground, An easy way of sowing at this time of year is just to pop two seeds to a 3" pot of soilless compost and plant out complete when the weather is good. If you are growing using the cordon system then just plant your two SP plants between two canes and train one up each cane. more details on that later. If for garden display then same thing but try and erect your chosen support prior to planting. be it a wigwam, peasticks, netting or whatever you have for the plants to climb up. Later I will explain my way of sowing for overwintering. Too late for this season of course.
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Post by piskie on Feb 1, 2011 20:56:17 GMT
Is there any advantage of using rootrainers instead of pots?
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 1, 2011 23:47:53 GMT
Is there any advantage of using rootrainers instead of pots? Yes and no.the advantages are: 1 less disturbance of roots at planting out time. 2 slightly less restriction of length of root. 3 You can examine root system for any problems Disadvantages: 1 cost 2 Only one plant per rootrainer I have never used them myself so cannot comment on how good or otherwise they are. I have always used pots either 5" (6 seeds) or 3" (2 seeds) and never had any problems. My usual advice to anyone is that if it works for you use it. If you already have rootrainers then why not sow some in them and try other methods and compare. Certainly if you are not intending to grow loads then use your rootrainers. (Might be a bit of a hassle if you wish to grow several hundred plants)
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Post by grindle on Feb 2, 2011 6:20:34 GMT
thanks SP, it's reminded me to get on with mine
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Post by piskie on Feb 2, 2011 7:37:21 GMT
Thanks SP I do have some rootrainers although they are getting a little battered now and as I've never tried SPs in pots I will do as you say and try some in each
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Post by wildlifefriendly on Feb 2, 2011 9:43:35 GMT
If I want some decent flowers in August should I sow them now or wait for a while?
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Post by Geranium on Feb 2, 2011 9:46:01 GMT
Now, WF.
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Post by candyblue on Feb 2, 2011 12:10:36 GMT
Not ever had much luck with sweetpeads I have tried again, can I ask if you were to sow them now in pots would you put them straight in cold frame or wait for them to come up then put them in there? I currently have some that are rally leggy as I think I have left them in the warm too long lol
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 2, 2011 14:29:08 GMT
Not ever had much luck with sweetpeads I have tried again, can I ask if you were to sow them now in pots would you put them straight in cold frame or wait for them to come up then put them in there? I currently have some that are rally leggy as I think I have left them in the warm too long lolFor August plants sow now and over the next couple of weeks. I would rather sow indoors with GENTLE heat and as soon as the first shoot appears breaking the surface of the compost get them out into the cold frame. leave the top on for a couple of days and then leave open to the elements only covering again if torrential rain or hail. The main thing is to allow full light and that will help to prevent legginess. Also to grow without any mollycoddling. What you want is to have short stocky plants. If you are growing for garden display then by all means stop after the first or second pair of true leaves have formed although they will usually develop side shoots without stopping. remember that the leading (first) shoot will not develop and that it is from the side shoots that you will use to grow on. You will probably find that the later plants will be more prone to mildewing same as culinary peas so be prepared to spray in good time to help prevent that. (more on that subject later)
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 2, 2011 23:59:56 GMT
Hi all, new here and i grow sweet peas for exhibition. To answer a few questions, rootrainers i think are the best. I sow seeds in either 40 cell tray inserts, or 66 cell compartments, without soaking or chitting, and about 10 days after gernination i transplant straight from the cell into rootrainers. They go into the cold frame straight away and will be ready for planting out early April. As sweetpea said, October sown seeds overwintered are the best, sown now is still good. They should be in flower by the end of May, though i take off the early ones and wait until 4 buds are showing, or about 2 foot 6 " tall before letting them go.
For blooms to be at their best in August, sow mid March.
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 3, 2011 14:55:16 GMT
Hi all, new here and i grow sweet peas for exhibition. To answer a few questions, rootrainers i think are the best. I sow seeds in either 40 cell tray inserts, or 66 cell compartments, without soaking or chitting, and about 10 days after gernination i transplant straight from the cell into rootrainers. They go into the cold frame straight away and will be ready for planting out early April. As sweetpea said, October sown seeds overwintered are the best, sown now is still good. They should be in flower by the end of May, though i take off the early ones and wait until 4 buds are showing, or about 2 foot 6 " tall before letting them go. For blooms to be at their best in August, sow mid March. hi Scrumpy and welcome to the forum. Always good to hear other growers viewpoints which I would say that if you asked 50 growers their methods you would probably get 50 different answers. I think I said somewhere that if a particular method works for you then stick to it. By all means try other methods as there are no hard and fast rules regarding cultivation methods, just that some ways work for some but not necesserily others. I learnt to grow sweetpeas by following the advice from the undisputed master of sweetpea cultivation and breeding, Bernard R. Jones Many of his methods have been changed and/or adapted by others with success on the national scene but as I experienced my own successes following his methods I stick to them. Probably the main difference in my own methods these days is the use of a cultivator to assist with ground preparation but other than that I tend to be a bit of a traditionalist.
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Post by wildlifefriendly on Feb 3, 2011 17:12:53 GMT
I sowed some seeds today. I have more seeds so I'll try some in mid march too and see which works best for me. You will cover the mildew issue before it becomes a problem sweetpea? Now I know they are prone to mildew it is obvious as to what kills mine each year.
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 3, 2011 19:58:02 GMT
Yes, we all have our different methods. Heres a good one from Cooltanagh for people to read www.cooltonagh.plus.com/sp_prn_files/advice/index.htmlHaving a complete change with my varieties this year and growing a few of theirs to see how they do. My biggest problem occurs after layering in July, they always struggle after that, so i'm going to try sowing in mid March for the first time to see if they are any good for August shows and grow them down the allotment.
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Post by sweetpea on Feb 4, 2011 0:21:13 GMT
Yes, we all have our different methods. Heres a good one from Cooltanagh for people to readwww.cooltonagh.plus.com/sp_prn_files/advice/index.htmlHaving a complete change with my varieties this year and growing a few of theirs to see how they do. My biggest problem occurs after layering in July, they always struggle after that, so i'm going to try sowing in mid March for the first time to see if they are any good for August shows and grow them down the allotment. Not used that firm before. I agree with some of the points made there but from my own experience of 40+ years of growing them I would say that some points were/are moot. I only use a particular supplier for the availability of the varieties I want and if more than one supplier has them then I go to the cheapest. The seed companies are mostly very reputable and IMHO the seed is usually good quality from them all. I also save my own seed from my plants, usually cordon grown and have had perfectly good results from them. When the show season is over I let them run to seed for that very purpose. Unfortunately, for various reasons most of whom here will be aware of I haven't been able to do much with most gardening for some time but am getting back into it now.
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Post by scrumpy on Feb 4, 2011 22:36:52 GMT
I was expecting guinness fertiliser somewhere in their method It's my first year of trying them. What i liked about them was the way they gave detailed accounts of the breeding behind each of their sweet peas. Real interesting read.
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