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May 20, 2011 21:01:23 GMT
Post by Geranium on May 20, 2011 21:01:23 GMT
I'm really pleased that Louise posted a photo of 'Pink Perpetue' because that was one I inherited, and I've always liked it.
Unfortunately, it's planted by the pergola where an ornamental vine grows. The rose goes through the leaves and flowers up above the vine leaves! It's my 'rose in the sky'. ;D
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May 20, 2011 21:06:53 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 20, 2011 21:06:53 GMT
Floydie, You are now finding out that digging out old Roses can be hard work, but you have probably dug enough of them out to kill them. Leave it for a day or so, and then have another go at them. It is hard work. I don't think they will grow back and if you can't get the roots out completely, put some fresh soil in the hole and plant over them, but not roses. I don't think I would bother with a weed killer, because we are talking about serious root killer here and I would think it would be too close to the children.
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May 24, 2011 19:37:51 GMT
Post by wildlifefriendly on May 24, 2011 19:37:51 GMT
Cherry, are you going to keep this thread going with helpful information? I know nothing about roses. I had a pretty red one which came with the house and needed moving. When I dug it up the root split into four, I gave two to my brother and potted up two for myself. My brothers two went straight in his garden and are doing well, my two in pots died. I want to know how and when to take cuttings. I also dug up a very pretty peach one which is doing well in a pot. I'm not brilliant with pots and I'm sure it will need feeding with something. I've got a climbing one too (it also came with the house), I've never done anything to this, to say it is leggy is an understatement. I would like some scented roses, the kind you walk past and can't help but smell them. I've looked at the GS and there are just so many that I give up before I even look at a label.
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May 24, 2011 21:22:24 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 24, 2011 21:22:24 GMT
We could all keep it going. If you are looking for roses, you are in for a treat because choosing is as good as buying. Study them yourself and don't stick to one type. There are so many good ones. Don't buy a bad one because it will be the same price.
Two or more years ago, I posted a bunch of sticks to Sweetpea and he said they all grew. It was cheaper for him to plant the cuttings rather than wait until they can be posted. I have actually got the gorgeous Zepherine Drouhin planted again this year for the dog kennel because I love it and it has no thorns.
The cheap Expert book on Roses is very good.
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May 24, 2011 21:49:40 GMT
Post by wildlifefriendly on May 24, 2011 21:49:40 GMT
I'll pick a copy of the Rose Expert up from the car boot at the weekend. I have successfully managed to ignore my roses for years, it is time I learned what to do with them. Choosing roses was too much of a minefield so I always opted to look at the plants I understood
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May 25, 2011 5:04:47 GMT
Post by grindle on May 25, 2011 5:04:47 GMT
I don't know what I'm doing with roses either, I only started to try to grow them in this garden, I've had a lot of failures
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May 25, 2011 8:03:07 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 25, 2011 8:03:07 GMT
I think they are easy, but that there is too much misinformation surrounding them.
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May 25, 2011 8:30:08 GMT
Post by wildlifefriendly on May 25, 2011 8:30:08 GMT
I think they are easy, but that there is too much misinformation surrounding them. I think that is my problem, there is too much information and if you know nothing it is not easy to know where to begin or which advice to follow.
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May 25, 2011 9:29:30 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 25, 2011 9:29:30 GMT
There are Classic Roses catalogues coming for you both Grindle and WF, but as the new ones have not been delivered yet, they would ask that you bear with them for about two weeks in order to have the new ones.
You possibly don't want them until the winter anyway, but do look for the Expert on Roses. I think they would be the simplest plant I grow, honestly. I like them in borders with other plants and think that is why they don't suffer from blackspot and other ailments.
I will take a few photos, but they won't be beautiful specimens. Geranium can do that. Mine will be untended plants blowing in the wind, falling down if they are climbers, and squeezed with aconitum if they fit. I love them all except three. One of these three is useful though and the other two will have to go. One goes for miles and I planted it for the sake of memories and the other was a freebie from a newspaper and has no scent and few flowers, although they are on long stems.
Rosie sent me one called 'Jenny's Rose'. It is new, but has small leaves to suit its small size and it looks as if it is a very pretty flower. It may not flower this year. We will see.
There is another point I want to make. I have read, on the last forum, that a member would only grow David Austin roses. Now, some of them are beautiful, but I would just ask that you open your eyes and look at all of them. Also, some of our smaller growers have beautiful roses and do breeding work on them.
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May 25, 2011 11:07:34 GMT
Post by Rosie on May 25, 2011 11:07:34 GMT
I love Cockers roses from up here.
See the thing is, if i buy 1 rose from Cockers and introduce a friend to get their catalogue....i get another rose for free, which of course i would send on to the person i introduced to them ;D ;D ;D
Jenny's rose came From Cockers too.
There seems to be much mystique about pruning roses, i find it quite simple(which is amazing for me to find anything simple ;D). Always prune to am outward facing bud so the centre of the plant gets good air circulation, this helps stop diseases taking hold of the plants ;D
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May 25, 2011 11:13:01 GMT
Post by Rosie on May 25, 2011 11:13:01 GMT
Jenny's rose...
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May 25, 2011 11:26:24 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 25, 2011 11:26:24 GMT
Oh wow! Look at that. I am pleased it is a nice rose. It could have been a horrible one if there is such a thing. That is correct for pruning Rosie. Keep a nice vase shape and the centre open for air circulation. As you say, prune above an outward facing bud and you will not get branches crossing in the centre. See, simple. Pruning is of course a long way off yet, but basically, that is it.
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May 25, 2011 11:38:34 GMT
Post by Rosie on May 25, 2011 11:38:34 GMT
It has a nice scent too, 6-8 on the roses smelly scale ;D ;D
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May 25, 2011 11:42:21 GMT
Post by esther on May 25, 2011 11:42:21 GMT
Lovely
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May 25, 2011 14:38:13 GMT
Post by Louise on May 25, 2011 14:38:13 GMT
I think they are easy, but that there is too much misinformation surrounding them. I agree, and would say the same about clematis too.
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