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May 25, 2011 14:40:48 GMT
Post by merlin on May 25, 2011 14:40:48 GMT
I love Cockers roses from up here. See the thing is, if i buy 1 rose from Cockers and introduce a friend to get their catalogue....i get another rose for free, which of course i would send on to the person i introduced to them ;D ;D ;D Jenny's rose came From Cockers too. There seems to be much mystique about pruning roses, i find it quite simple(which is amazing for me to find anything simple ;D). Always prune to am outward facing bud so the centre of the plant gets good air circulation, this helps stop diseases taking hold of the plants ;D Rosie I have an amber rose called Anne Cocker, could it be one of theirs. |
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May 25, 2011 18:40:08 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 25, 2011 18:40:08 GMT
Rosie might have a catalogue, but I would think that is a
Cocker's hybridisation.
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May 26, 2011 5:26:02 GMT
Post by grindle on May 26, 2011 5:26:02 GMT
I bought 3 David Austen roses a while back, and I have to say they really are not doing well, one will have to be binned, the other 2 have been potted up to try and get them growing better, I'm now looking at different ones to replace them, I have some strong growing ones that don't seem to mind my shaley soil
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May 26, 2011 5:59:58 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 5:59:58 GMT
That's a pity Grindle and a surprise too, could you provide us with ,more info
When did you plant
were they bare rooted
where are they
was there ever one there before
did you use that 'fungus stuff'
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May 26, 2011 6:08:33 GMT
Post by Lou78W on May 26, 2011 6:08:33 GMT
I bought 3 David Austen roses a while back, and I have to say they really are not doing well, one will have to be binned, the other 2 have been potted up to try and get them growing better, I'm now looking at different ones to replace them, I have some strong growing ones that don't seem to mind my shaley soilI think thats where your problem lies Grindle. Roses quite like heavy clay soils, if you could get masses of bulk in the soil where they grow you might have better luck ;D |
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May 26, 2011 6:18:08 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 6:18:08 GMT
My fist thought was the dry weather Grindle but will know how much water they need. you must be very disappointed.
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May 26, 2011 7:19:32 GMT
Post by grindle on May 26, 2011 7:19:32 GMT
Merlin, they were bare root when I bought them back in Somerset, and were fine, I think Lou is right, the soil in that part of the garden just doesn't seem to hold onto the compost I keep piling in, by the end of winter, it looks like I've never done it, plus over the wet summers they really got hit with blackspot, they've just got weaker each year, I think they need a lot more TLC than they've had, and I'm sure it's been down to me and not the plant. I'm going to replant them in a different place once they pick up again, and leave this part of the border for hardy and drought tolerant plants that won't need to fight for existence
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May 26, 2011 8:31:36 GMT
Post by wildlifefriendly on May 26, 2011 8:31:36 GMT
My garden seems to like roses, I only have a few which came with the house. I have a white one which has lots of little roses on each stem, it doesn't smell but is pretty, I did have a red one with the same sort of flowers but I managed to kill that one  I prefer lots of small flowers to the huge blousy ones (I think). |
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May 26, 2011 8:31:37 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 8:31:37 GMT
A place for everything and everything in it's place then  I've no experience of such soil conditions but something else will grow there. Good luck with moving them. I suppose if they're so unhappy there there's no point in waiting 'till dormant. |
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May 26, 2011 9:18:45 GMT
Post by Cherry on May 26, 2011 9:18:45 GMT
The mycorrhizal fungi has not been around for many years and it is quite expensive. It is not just for roses either, and I understood it was only needed in certain conditions. In fact Peter Gooch of Thorncroft Clematis is only just now experimenting with it. Your thin soil may be one of these special cases Grindle, but I am requesting expert advice on this.
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May 26, 2011 11:40:33 GMT
Post by grindle on May 26, 2011 11:40:33 GMT
that would be great Cherry, thanks. |
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May 26, 2011 14:59:41 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 14:59:41 GMT
The mycorrhizal fungi has not been around for many years and it is quite expensive. It is not just for roses either, and I understood it was only needed in certain conditions. In fact Peter Gooch of Thorncroft Clematis is only just now experimenting with it. Your thin soil may be one of these special cases Grindle, but I am requesting expert advice on this. I was introduced to it at Fryers Roses of Knutsford. You're right it is expensive considering it's natural and has been around since time immemorial. Fryers now make their own version. I still keep an open mind on 'rose sickness' though as I don't believe it's due only to soil depletion. |
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May 26, 2011 16:26:46 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 16:26:46 GMT
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May 26, 2011 18:19:30 GMT
Post by Louise on May 26, 2011 18:19:30 GMT
I've been very surprised that all the roses i've put in here have done so well because you all know what soils i have here - retentive is not the word you'd use.
I have no idea why they're doing well !
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May 26, 2011 18:49:03 GMT
Post by merlin on May 26, 2011 18:49:03 GMT
I've been very surprised that all the roses i've put in here have done so well because you all know what soils i have here - retentive is not the word you'd use. I have no idea why they're doing well ! You're too modest  |
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I've no experience of such soil conditions but something else will grow there. Good luck with moving them. I suppose if they're so unhappy there there's no point in waiting 'till dormant. 
